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Outside oil line kit started this in June, finished the install today. Going to be rainy the next week and a half, plenty of things will get done.

Washed it up and loaded it onto a trailer to go to Coronado tomorrow for the parade. It will be on the 3rd because the 4th is on Sunday. This is a very patriotic parade with Navy and Marine Corps bands and many entries. Our club will have 10 cars. Last time I was there the people were lined up for over a mile about 10 deep on both sides of Orange Ave. and people in balconies of the buildings along the route. It goes from the ferry landing to the Hotel Del Coronado. If you are in the area, come and join us. The club is limited to 10 cars, however, I'm sure there are many who have space in their cars for passengers, or you can join the crowd and watch us.
Norm

Getting close to final assembly and paint on the 1923 Depot Hack. Will be done by the end of July and ready for show and go!

Bryan, can we see some more photos of your hack

One of our members lives in a quaint village 45 minutes west. We are always invited to their Juky 4 parade. Last year due to Covid it was modified in that the parade went to the people via a slow tour around town so people could watch from the safety of their homes/yards. It really was neat.

This year was back to normal, with huge bunches of people along the parade route. You could tell they were thrilled to see the 6 model Ts and one model A. We had three T's from our club. It was a good day. Of course while waiting in line at the parade staging it sprinkled but not for long.

Sorry for the typo! Meant JULY 4!! My fat thumb always hits the "k"!

Dallas, Here are a few more Pictures of my hack... a 12 year project.
If you want any detail photos or how to's let me know. We have built this one by "trial by fire"
Body By Everette Currier. Sheet Metal by Rootleib. Calimers Wheel Shop wheels. Was a Original Hack and I have the original bill of sale and title for the chassis.
Sadly only the frame and drivetrain was salvageable. Rebuilt Engine, Transmission, Rear axle...no bolt left un-turned. yes I'm broke!!! but a Proud DYI "T" guy!! yes a few brass era add-on's such as a Brass Holley G, 13 Brass Column, and some flash things like nickel head bolts.

Our club was limited to 10 cars. Two of which came from Alpine. Two of the cars overheated and pulled out of the parade early. I can be proud that our two from Alpine did not have any problems. We live in the mountains and it gets hot going uphill on a hot day, so we keep the cooling systems in good condition. The ones which had overheated, cooled right off after they got out of the parade route, but it was so slow and so much idling in the parade, they just didn't get enough air through the radiators. It is estimated that over 200,000 people were gathered along the parade route. Unlike the news would have us think, there is still very much patriotism in the San Diego area. All these pictures were taken during the line up period.
Norm

Tweaking that caster dead into the sweet spot!!!!!!

Spent Canada Day repairing a few things that were suggested to me in a previous post. Riveted the low speed notch instead of roll pin, rewired the bolts holding the clutch drum together, put new longer springs in the bands so I could remove the washers that I had before to keep the bands apart. Fortunately I've heard enough horror stories about dropping things into the transmission that with liberal use of rags and thread I didn't drop anything! I've never pulled the hogshead in the car before but it went pretty well. I must say that reinstalling the bendix cover was the most trying part...getting the screws to start without dropping them: not my idea of a good time. Next I'm going to pull the head and check my piston clearance.

I have been working on putting the rebuilt engine back into my the 26 Coupe. It is getting close!!

Finally finished varnishing & assembling the rear bed. Still waiting for rear fenders in September Ready for the July 4th parade today!
John Monticciolo
Oscoda Michigan

Drove over to Walton Indiana for the 4th parade and car show.

Got the car home, polished brass, buffed the turtle deck lid and one rear fender, which made them look much better, ordered a bunch of needed parts and supplies, painted the floor of the turtledeck and worked on getting the metal shield over the rear spring in the turtledeck ready to paint. Made side and rear panels for the inside of the turtledeck.

Enjoyed Clara twice today! First thing in the morning before it got too hot. After supper took our new neighbor gal's dad for his first ride in a model T. Her parents are from Turkey. She woulda rode but is in Illinois tying up loose ends. Her turn will be next week.

Dang it...forgot the pics!! May be heat exhaustion!

I finished the engine install on the coup, fired it up and took it for spin!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mc8etrBF9Y

Nice day for a ride Scott.

After returning Frank to Ford steel clutch plates, and getting everything back together, I discovered 2 more cracks in the water jacket area of the driver's side of the block... On the underside of the block lip, over the visible cylinder tubes. A pain to get to, and can't see what you're doing. Wish I had seen them while I was re-doing the 2 cracks right above them, when the engine was out and on it's side!

I used 2 thin layers of slow set JBWeld, but decided to do the Irontite de-scaler, then ceramic sealer process. So far, so good!

After the 4th, i added a canvas cover for the pickup area. It won't be water proof,but better than nothing. Water proofing on the Harbor Freight farm canvas gets orang crap over everything! lol...

I like the orange. It is different and makes your car stand out. I remember your posts on how you made it.

After seven months of on and off work, I can finally say that my field coil ring is completed. Being able to tackle this gives me so much more confidence for the rest of the build.

...reinstalling the bendix cover was the most trying part...getting the screws to start without dropping them...

You can hold the screw with a wire handle. You could also tape it on the end of the screwdriver.


I didn't take a picture of my T work today, but it was pretty simple. The parking brake handle was jumping forward because the ratchet was loose and slipping off the quadrant. I turned the rivet red and mashed it with a BFH. No more floppy ratchet, no more jumping forward.

I put the head of the screw into a short length of rubber fuel hose. which grips the screw well. Then an electrician's thin srewdriver can be used through the fuel line to drive the screw. This keeps the screw correctly oriented, the driver held in the slot and the driver lets you check that you are in fact square on.

Hope this helps.
Allan from down under.

Been driving the wheels off it.

Picked up my Amish friend and went for breakfast in the Big Green Truck. This afternoon, I will be hauling his family and all their kids to the icecream shop. How many will fit? The last time it was 17.

Steve Jelf wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:11 am

...reinstalling the bendix cover was the most trying part...getting the screws to start without dropping them...

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You can hold the screw with a wire handle. You could also tape it on the end of the screwdriver.


I didn't take a picture of my T work today, but it was pretty simple. The parking brake handle was jumping forward because the ratchet was loose and slipping off the quadrant. I turned the rivet red and mashed it with a BFH. No more floppy ratchet, no more jumping forward.

VACO brand holding screwdriver, long version. Blade is split & expands to lock onto the screw. My favorite tool for this job.

One screw can be left in place. Make that the hardest to access one.
I find I can get at the rest easy enough, but you gotta have a long screwdriver
to not make it a clusterschtuppe.

Not nearly enough.....
We did get to the ice cream stand and the dollar store on the way back the other day,
but I've been very busy. Gotta make hay when the sun shines, as they say.

An Icecream run with the neighbors today.

Dallas, that would be a no no in California. No one is to ride in the back of a truck.
Norm

And that is the beauty of Dallas and many of us still living in America. A place where parents can still have a say in what their children do, who their children are with, and what their children are exposed to. All that said with the expectation that their parents knew where they were and that Dallas did not kidnap any of these children from the Greyhound station where they were waiting to escape the rigors of a simple life.

Good for you Dallas. That trip in your T will be remembered long after they forget where they saw their first Prop65 warning.

It's nice to see something wholesome, normal and family oriented these days. Did you pick up an apple pie on the way back?

Good deal Dallas! We can't have folks ride in the back here in Michigan, that I know of. They seem to make exceptions for parades, though.

It is unlawfull in our state also. The fact it has no seat belts, turn signals, anti- lock brakes, air bags or brake lights doesnt matter to me either as it is exemt. I would argue it has seating in the back much like a hack or bus. The fact the bed was made by the American Wagon Company, it could be concidered a wagon ride.

I wont live in fear of what could happen and never really live. Today was a nice weather day on a sauturday when there is not much going on around the farm between hay cuttings. The perfect day for a icecream run. Fun was had by all and icecream was a treat for all that work so hard.

We take all back roads that have many buggies and farm equipment. Slow vehicles are the norm in these parts. I am very blessed to live here and own T's. Get them out and drive or trailer them here and we will drive together.

Fly-over country has its benefits.

Burger, you better keep driving cuz the wheels are still on it.

Dallas, you might be a bit out of the way, but if I can get ice cream on my way to OCF?

Steve, have you left for Dearborn already?

We haven't done anything to our T in over a year.

However, driving through Amish country in mid Michigan all week (for the first time in at least 4 years) made me REALLY wish it was driveable. Definitely a motivational factor.

Once the rail is done, I think it's time to get seriously started on it again.

Dallas, I still envy your truck. I hope to get another ride at OCF this year!

Jason, I have to decide on taking the 26 pickup or The Big Green Truck. Looking forward to seeing everyone again.

Dave, we can go for icecream if you swing by.

Dallas,

Good tactic.., fatten up the Amish to slow down their buggy's! Anything to win the race is all fair in war and peace!

Hank

Good thinking Hank. I guess I could feed their horses more feed also.

You need to convince Hank to come to OCF.

Dallas, keep hauling those kids!!! That is exactly what I wanted to do with that TT!! It's so good to see it being put to good use!!!

I pulled the motor out of the '22 Coupe because it seemed to get tight and I wanted to look at it before any major damage happened BUT just as I got it out a friend stopped in with his tractor and need help pulling a leaking hydraulic pump and help in installing new seals and while we had it torn down check and reset valve lash if needed. SO this time of year his tractor is more important so he can get his field work done. The tractor now sits in the shop in front of the Coupe and with both the Coupe and tractor torn apart it looks like a bomb went off in the building!

Dennis, have you considered setting out a couple of bags of M&M's and boxes of twinkies to see if you can attract help?

Bill, that WAS a great idea so I went to the store and bought some BUT after an hour or so the bags and boxes were empty and now I have a stomach ache! and still I didn't get anything done.

Darn, I thought that would work! Maybe you will have to increase the bait to T-bone steaks, and a case of cold beer! You might also think about mentioning it to the target people? Make sure you have enuff parking!

Tested and adjusted coils. They did need a little adjustment, but they weren't the reason for the car running rough.

Performed my annual cleaning of the gas bulb which occasionally plugs with tank liner flakes.

My son was looking for some Morris Mini bits in my shed shelves, and while at it he turned up a set of T hickory spokes, all numbered ready for re-fitting
I cannot remember ever putting them there. I assembled them into a really nice felloe and hub, but they were loose at the tenon end. For years I have had an odd felloe hanging from the rafters. This one was deeper in cross section than all the rest so I determined to try it

At the same time I punched out some discs from a biscuit tin lid to make shims for the end of the spokes. I used a Dremel tool and 2mm cut off wheel to cut two slots across the the centre. These allowed the centre of the disc to be punched down to make a firm fit over the spoke tenon at the same time the tangs made it a firmer fit on the felloe. I had seen flat washers used before, but these do not help the tenon fit.

Being Canadian wheels, I could assemble 6 spokes to hold the hub in place, and then fit the intervening six in place.The whole deal was remarkably firm this time around, and remarkably true. So I undid the 6 hub bolts to the last of the threads, and drove the second six spokes out at the hub end again as far as they would go, and used some two pack epoxy in the gaps created. When the bolts were tensioned again, I still had that same firm, true wheel.

It, and another like it will go on my latest project, just to see how they hold up. Knowing what has gone into them, I will know what to look for when they have been in service for a while.

Meanwhile I have a set of 4 really nice felloes ready to send to New Zealand for a new rebuild if things demand same.

Allan from down under.

I got started mounting two new Universal T Drivers with flaps and tubes onto a pair of new reproduction Hayes style rims. The tubes started out as rubber stem, but I cut the rubber stems off and installed original Schrader 777 stems. One done, one to go.

After these two, I'm waiting for more tires and rubber stem tubes (on backorder from Universal) so that I can mount the remaining two.

I 3D printed a body iron to use as a pattern to start bending my metal body irons for a body I’m building.

Fighting with a firewall bracket mounting bolt. Unfortunately, the carriage bolt just spins.

Started the trip to pick up the family T that is getting passed down. It's going to be a long hot drive.

Nifty looking car, Chad

One of the necessary evils of an engine rebuild. Took a quick 0.050” off the valve stems last night. I bought this machine a little over a year and a half ago and I’m finally using it. Slowly putting this puzzle together one piece at a time!

Brad

I’ve been moving T parts from my parents house next door to mine after mom passed away a couple months ago.
As soon as I get done, we are selling the house.
I’m trying to get 2 big garages full of parts into 2 garages that are already full of stuff !!
I plan to add on to the barn that is attached to my big garage that I work out of....if it will ever dry up.
Anyone want to come over and get dirty, I’m selling cheap before I move it !!
Lots of stuff I am keeping for my car, but lots more for sale.
Trying to organize as I bring it over is time consuming, but I have to so I can fit it as best as possible and keep it dry.
Just a sample, the attic of one garage is a disaster area !!

And my small garage is coming along...

I wish you were closer Dave. I love to watch others work !

I had to pick up a check from a customer today so I took the 26 on a 20 mile round trip.

Come on back to Norton Dallas, we’ll fill that RPU up with loot !!

I would Dave but I had to work on it this morning. E-brake popped out this morning at breakfast. I came right home and removed the cross shaft and had to weld up the pawl and grind a new point on it. While I had it out , I bent an 1- 1/2" offset in it so my big foot is not catching on it while using the low peddle. After oiling all the bits that need oil, I cleaned the New Day timer and its ready to go. Problem is its almost noon and I wont have time to get there and back today.

I got married on the 17th. I had guests in town all week and gave rides to one and all.

Congratulations Jason!

Bought a trailer for it. This trailer was built for a wood cab Ton Truck, so I am doing a little surgery on the front windbreak to make it shorter for the 23 Touring.

Recently something got my goat, so I went for a little ride today in Isabel. Man that little stinker loves to run! She snuck up to 50 mph on me today! Screenshot attests to it. Nice little 45 mile trip around 2 towns and countryside in between.

As for the goat, well, since my new neighbor lady moved in I've slowly become a goat farm helper! You'd love this Dallas! They are cute, but can get into trouble. So after putting up probly 2000 feet of these fence panels, we found out we need a "second layer", offset of the verticles, to close up the gap. Started the project yesterday and this morning I tired out. They always think the grass is greener on the other side I guess. Isabel won out!
Went all over , including a nice fishing spot along the way.

Wasn't sure if I could post 5 pics at once..here's the evidence of Isabel's sneaking! She cruises nicely at 30-33 all day long.

Tim

that is a beautiful car! My favorite year/model and favorite color...all topped of with terrific wheels. Man, what a combo!

Isabel is a real looker Tim. Not all show, but alot of go to. Put up alot of fence. Goats are known to stand on the hood and eat the top. They will eat anything and climb like, well you know.

Put 450 miles on my speedster doing the Cascade Loop last weekend. The part of the run going to Winthrop was a Frank Reichlin Memorial outing. Frank was a Western WA T and speedster legend until he passed away a year ago in his early 90's. I finished the loop for the scenery and a just a good time to put a few more miles on an engine that is still relatively fresh. Had an issue with the check valve on my oil system causing the pump to lose prime if it sat for an hour. Too much on my plate at the moment to pull the engine and rework plumbing. As a temp fix I added a feed line from the drain plug to an electric pump feeding the input to the primary Datsun oil pump. A momentary on switch lets me force the prime and then I can forget it until I stop for a while again. I leave for the Sacramento area on Aug 1st to start a tour from there 1 and don't want to have to worry about oiling. I figure the trip down, back, and the tour in CA will put about 2K miles on the car and I want to just be able to drive rather than futz with things.

Thanks Scott and Dallas. She's good 'nuff for me, was a total nit and bolt frame off resto. Fenders getting some battle scars but thats ok. I bought her to have FUN! Scott, I love the wire wheels, a lot safer! Gettin used to the Ruckstell too.

The goats will be entertaining to say the least. A few have already nuzzled up to me. She has 50!!

Today was "picnic tour day" again, except the plan was to hit up a little "hot dog/ice cream stand" in Vermilion, but sadly they were closed due to staff issues. They only have outdoor eating so its fairly safe re Covid protocols, which we still need to sort of follow. They have a little "home made" Model T truck there for kids to play on in the picnic area. Art said it looks like a model K. So we ended up at a great mom & pop place called Granny Joe's for a regular indoor lunch instead. Surprisingly, no ice cream! Then we went down the road to the local winery, Paper Moon, and set up a date for our club to go there on a Friday evening. Overall it was a great tour. And of course as the pic will show, it was Champs day.

You guys are having too much fun Tim. Keep it up. I like the photos also.

Put the first 100 miles on my first actual model T. My other T's have steel wheels. What a blast!

One proud papa here watched my son Carston drive 1946 9n Ford tractor thru the parade at the Great Oregon Steamup. Then I followed around the show grounds as he was driving our 1919 touring for the first time on his own!

That's cool Chris! Good looking boy! When I was his age I used to use an old beat up 9N also at the local Catholic church/school to plow the parking lot in the winter. Had an 8' Meyer Snow plow, manual "rotating"....lotta "off and on" the tractor! And if that wasn't enough aggravation, 90% of the time I had to pull the starter and put it back in, as it would always jam up on the flywheel preventing it to start. Rocking the tractor in gear seldom worked. Ugg. Frozen fingers!! The church couldn't afford to get it fixed. That's one cool looking steam shovel to the left of the picture too!

Watched it gather dust.

It might be a 2N tractor

KBurket wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:20 am

Performed my annual cleaning of the gas bulb which occasionally plugs with tank liner flakes.

LOL, you got that right! I wonder how many people caught on to what you were showing!

I finally got the new windshield installed on my runabout. I believe it's one of those notorious put-together 1915's assembled sometime in the last sixty years or so. The guy who put it together did a pretty good job, but he did use some incorrect parts. So since I got the car I've been replacing some of the wrong parts with right ones.

One of the wrong things was a gap between the upper and lower windshield glass because of the incorrect hinges.


I was on the road in Illinois, on the way home from Detroit in 2019, when the right side upright broke right at the bracket and cracked the glass. I applied rubber bungees until I could get to a hardware store.


As soon as I could I replaced the bungees with a more correct baling wire brace.



One of my winter projects this year was to replace the broken lower windshield upright with a solid piece cut from a junk frame. This week I installed new glass and put the windshield back on the car.

This shot during installation shows the upper glass overlapping the lower glass due to using the correct hinges. Is this too much overlap? Probably, but I don't mind.

Lost my windshield wrench, so I made a new one.

babychadwick wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:35 am

Started the trip to pick up the family T that is getting passed down. It's going to be a long hot drive.

WOW! The next time I go visit my family in the Redlands I will have to bring my speedster and go to the Keys and see your T!

Good progress on the rebuild of my 1916 chassis this last few weeks due to a State enforced lockdown. Nothing else to do other than work on the car at nights and weekends. Had a set of demountable wheels respoked for the car. sanding has been a pain, but just bout ready for a coat of stain and then fit the rims and tyres.

I bought my first Lizzy and joined the club this month, I am very fortunate you all are here to help us young'uns.

Very nice looking coupe Tad!

I finished putting a new Classtique top on our 21 touring last weekend. Tonight I took it out for a drive on its 100th birthday!

I may be putting it up for sale soon to make room for my next T restoration project. If anyone is looking for a beautiful 21 touring that does not need anything except someone to drive and enjoy it, let me know.

Neal

Not much but helped a high school friend get hers running Drove 11 hours to visit family and work on this car.

My dad in the photo

Not much work on the T's due to work. I did replace the copper fuel line for the second time because of cracking. Now it has steel like it should.

I installed Scott Congers full flow float valve in a carb for the TT. I hope to install the carb and do a couple test runs. A week from saturday I have another icecream run with the Yoder Toter.

Been working on the Speedster this week. I'm mounting a SU carb using a '27 intake manifold turned upside down. Had to bore the manifold inlet hole out and make an adapter for the SU. Have to make some throttle linkage and a choke set up. Then see how it runs.

Raised the float level in this Holley G and put it on the 1915 in place of the NH I've been using. Did the car run any better? Nope. I had to spray some ether to get it started and it still ran rough and died when I tried to bring it down to an idle. Still mystified.

could be:

plugged passage from throttle down to main jet *
crap under the main jet
missing or poor gasket under main jet
cracked idle tube
idle tube not sealing at union
idle tube union blocked
missing gasket under needle mounting plate, or 3 ears of plate bent such that it cannot seal and create strong enough vacuum at the jet

* this one corresponds to your symptoms exactly

So I'm still travelling back with the speedster in tow. I stopped in San Diego, pulled it off the trailer and drove about 40 miles. It wasn't too bad but the bands need work and the ruckstell has no high gear. Anyways not I'm in Houston at a friends so I pulled the motor out and started replacing the bands and resealing the hogshead.