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FYI. Heads up. for all You train and steam buffs. It came within 8 miles of Me today but I didn't know it. It is in Houston Tomorrow the 17th and then leaves for new Orleans and points north. You can goggle KHOU TV Houston for video and other videos on You Tube.
Take a picture of Your model T and big Boy. might make the cover of Vintage Ford and Model T times. I missed My chance don't miss yours.

Tour schedule.
Big Boy No. 4014 departed Cheyenne, Wyoming on Aug. 5, traveling through Arkansas, Colorado, Kansas, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas and Wyoming. Along the way, the Big Boy will be on display in the following cities during the tour:

Saturday, Aug. 14: Fort Worth, Texas
Tuesday, Aug. 17: Houston, Texas
Saturday, Aug. 21: New Orleans, Louisiana
Sunday, Aug. 29: St. Louis, Missouri
Monday, Sept. 6: Denver, Colorado
Parking at overnight stops and display locations is limited. Please utilize available parking facilities surrounding these locations.

Following the Denver stop on Labor Day weekend, the Big Boy and its crew will return to Cheyenne.

Where is the Big Boy at right now? Follow it on our interactive steam locomotive tracking map as well as on Twitter at @UP_Steam! The map is also useful for giving you a detailed view of the route between stops.

Join the Union Pacific Steam Club to be notified of future schedule updates!

Note: All schedule times and locations are subject to change.

Big Boy 2021 Tour
Monday, August 16
Hearne, Texas
2003 Market St. Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
Navasota, Texas
E. McApline St. & S. Railroad St. Arrival
Depart 10:40 a.m. CT
11:25 a.m. CT
Hempstead, Texas
Wilkins St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 12:25 p.m. CT
1:10 p.m. CT
Houston, Texas
902 Washington Avenue Arrival 4:00 p.m. CT
Tuesday, August 17
Houston, Texas
902 Washington Avenue On Display: 9:00 a.m. – 3:00 p.m. CT
More information
Wednesday, August 18
Houston, Texas
902 Washington Avenue Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
Huffman, Texas
Spanish Cove Dr. Arrival
Depart 10:45 a.m. CT
11:15 a.m. CT
Hardin, Texas
County Road 2009 Crossing Arrival
Depart 12:30 p.m. CT
1:15 p.m. CT
Beaumont, Texas
Northwest of I-10 Frontage Road & Hollywood Ave. Arrival 3:15 p.m. CT
Thursday, August 19
Beaumont, Texas
Northwest of I-10 Frontage Road & Hollywood Ave. Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
Orange, Texas
Holly Lane Crossing Along South Ave. Arrival
Depart 9:30 a.m. CT
9:45 a.m. CT
Lake Charles, La.
100 N. Ryan St. Arrival
Depart 11:15 a.m. CT
12:00 p.m. CT
Kinder, La.
14th Street Crossing Arrival
Depart 1:15 p.m. CT
1:45 p.m. CT
Opelousas, La.
North Court St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 3:30 p.m. CT
3:45 p.m. CT
Livonia, La.
NO PUBLIC ACCESS
Arrival 5:00 p.m. CT
Friday, August 20
Livonia, La.
NO PUBLIC ACCESS
Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
Plaquemine, La.
Main St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 9:00 a.m. CT
9:15 a.m. CT
Donaldsonville, La.
Railroad Avenue Arrival
Depart 10:15 a.m. CT
10:45 a.m. CT
Luling, La.
Gassen St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 12:30 p.m. CT
12:45 p.m.,CT
New Orleans, La. See Steam Locomotive Tracking Map for route where No. 4014 will be turned around for Sunday's departure.
New Orleans, La.
Audubon Riverview Park ("The Fly") Arrival 7:15 p.m. CT
Saturday, August 21
New Orleans, La.
Audubon Riverview Park ("The Fly") On Display: 9:00 a.m. – 3:00 p.m. CT
More information
Experience the Union Pacific Rail Car Closed
Sunday, August 22
2021 Union Pacific Museum Special
New Orleans, La.
Tickets Sold Out;
More excursion information at uptraintix.com
Audubon Riverview Park ("The Fly") Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
Luling, La.
Gassen St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 10:55 a.m. CT
11:10 a.m. CT
Donaldsonville, La.
Railroad Avenue Arrival
Depart 12:55 p.m. CT
1:40 p.m. CT
Plaquemine , La.
No Public Access; Passengers Disembarking Arrival
Depart 2:30 p.m. CT
3:00 p.m. CT
Livonia, La.
NO PUBLIC ACCESS
Arrival 4:15 p.m. CT
Monday, August 23
Livonia, La.
NO PUBLIC ACCESS
Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
Bunkie, La.
Oak Street Crossing Arrival
Depart 10:00 a.m. CT
10:45 a.m. CT
Natchitoches, La.
Trudeau St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 2:00 p.m. CT
2:45 p.m. CT
Shreveport, La.
6215 E. Jewella Road Arrival 5:30 p.m. CT
Tuesday, August 24
Shreveport, La.
6215 E. Jewella Road Viewing Only
Wednesday, August 25
Shreveport, La.
6215 E. Jewella Road Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
Jefferson, Texas
North Alley St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 10:45 a.m. CT
11:15 a.m. CT
Atlanta, Texas
W Tipton St. & S West St. Arrival
Depart 12:15 p.m. CT
12:30 p.m. CT
Texarkana, Ark.
100 E. Front St. Arrival
Depart 1:15 p.m. CT
1:45 p.m. CT
Hope, Ark.
100 E. Division St. Arrival
Depart 3:00 p.m. CT
3:15 p.m. CT
Prescott, Ark.
401 W. 1st St. Arrival 4:00 p.m. CT
Thursday, August 26
Prescott, Ark.
401 W. 1st St. Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
Gurdon, Ark.
Main St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 8:45 a.m. CT
9:15 a.m. CT
Arkadelphia, Ark.
Walnut St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 9:45 a.m. CT
10:30 a.m. CT
Malvern, Ark.
200 E. First St. Arrival
Depart 11:15 a.m. CT
11:45 a.m. CT
North Little Rock, Ark.
1000 West 4th Street. Arrival 1:30 p.m. CT
Friday, August 27
North Little Rock, Ark.
1000 West 4th Street. Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
Bald Knob, Ark.
Hickory Street Crossing Arrival
Depart 10:30 a.m. CT
11:15 a.m. CT
Tuckerman, Ark.
Main St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 12:30 p.m. CT
12:45 p.m. CT
Walnut Ridge, Ark.
109 Southwest Front St Arrival
Depart 1:45 p.m. CT
2:30 p.m. CT
Poplar Bluff, Mo.
995 S. Broadway St Arrival 4:30 p.m. CT
Saturday, August 28
Poplar Bluff, Mo.
995 S. Broadway St Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
Scott City, Mo.
Oak Street Crossing Arrival
Depart 11:15 a.m. CT
11:45 a.m. CT
Chester, Ill.
Rock Bridge Road & Water Street Arrival
Depart 2:15 p.m. CT
2:50 p.m. CT
St. Louis, Mo.
NO PUBLIC ACCESS Arrival 7:45 p.m. CT
Sunday, August 29
St. Louis, Mo.
Poplar St. & S. 16th St. On Display: 9:00 a.m. – 3:00 p.m. CT ONLY
More information
Monday, August 30
St. Louis, Mo.
NO PUBLIC ACCESS Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
Kirkwood, Mo.
110 W. Argonne Drive Arrival
Depart 9:00 a.m. CT
9:30 a.m. CT
Pacific, Mo.
First Street Arrival
Depart 10:15 a.m. CT
10:45 a.m. CT
Washington, Mo.
301 W. Front St Arrival
Depart 11:30 a.m. CT
12:15 p.m. CT
Hermann, Mo.
Wharf St. & Gutenburg St. Arrival
Depart 1:15 p.m. CT
1:45 p.m. CT
Jefferson City, Mo.
End of Missouri Blvd. Arrival 3:30 p.m. CT
Tuesday, August 31
Jefferson City, Mo.
End of Missouri Blvd. Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
California, Mo.
S East St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 9:00 a.m. CT
9:30 a.m. CT
Sedalia, Mo.
105 W. Pacific St Arrival
Depart 11:00 a.m. CT
11:45 a.m. CT
Warrensburg, Mo.
100 S. Holden St. Arrival
Depart 1:00 p.m. CT
1:30 p.m. CT
Pleasant Hill, Mo.
100 Wyoming St. Arrival
Depart 2:45 p.m. CT
3:30 p.m. CT
Lees Summit, Mo.
217 SW Main St. Arrival
Depart 4:00 p.m. CT
4:30 p.m. CT
Independence, Mo.
600 S. Grand Ave. Arrival
Depart 5:10 p.m. CT
5:40 p.m. CT
Kansas City, Mo.
Union Station
30 W. Pershing Rd. Arrival 6:15 p.m. CT
Wednesday, September 1
Kansas City, Mo.
Union Station
30 W. Pershing Rd. Viewing Only
Thursday, September 2
Kansas City, Mo.
Union Station
30 W. Pershing Rd. Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
Lawrence, Kan.
402 N. 2nd St. Arrival
Depart 10:15 a.m. CT
10:35 a.m. CT
Topeka, Kan.
701 N. Kansas Ave. Arrival
Depart 11:45 a.m. CT
12:30 p.m. CT
Manhattan, Kan.
S. Manhattan Ave. Crossing Arrival
Depart 2:30 p.m. CT
2:50 p.m. CT
Abilene, Kan.
201 NW 2nd St. Arrival
Depart 4:30 p.m. CT
5:00 p.m. CT
Salina, Kan.
400 N. 13th St Arrival 6:00 p.m. CT
Friday, September 3
Salina, Kan.
400 N. 13th St Depart 9:00 a.m. CT
Ellsworth, Kan.
Lincoln Ave. Crossing Arrival
Depart 10:15 a.m. CT
10:35 a.m. CT
Wilson, Kan.
Avenue E Crossing Arrival
Depart 11:20 a.m. CT
12:05 p.m. CT
Russell, Kan.
Lincoln St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 1:00 p.m. CT
1:15 p.m. CT
Hays, Kan.
E. 9th St. & Milner St. Arrival 2:15 p.m. CT
Saturday, September 4
Hays, Kan.
E. 9th St. & Milner St. Depart 8:00 a.m. CT
Ellis, Kan.
Washington St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 9:00 a.m. CT
9:30 a.m. CT
Quinter, Kan.
Long St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 10:45 a.m. CT
11:30 a.m. CT
Oakley, Kan.
E. Front St. & Center Ave. Arrival
Depart 12:45 p.m. CT
1:15 p.m. CT
Sharon Springs, Kan.
N. Front St. & N. Boeke St. Arrival 2:15 p.m. MT
Sunday, September 5
Sharon Springs, Kan.
N. Front St. & N. Boeke St. Depart 8:00 a.m. MT
Kit Carson, Colo.
Young St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 10:00 a.m. MT
10:30 a.m. MT
Hugo, Colo.
4th Ave. Crossing Arrival
Depart 12:15 p.m. MT
12:45 p.m. MT
Deer Trail, Colo.
Burton St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 2:45 p.m. MT
3:15 p.m. MT
Strasburg, Colo.
Monroe St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 4:00 p.m. MT
4:15 p.m. MT
Denver, Colo.
39th & Wynkoop St. Arrival 7:00 p.m. MT
Monday, September 6
Denver, Colo.
39th & Wynkoop St. On Display: 9:00 a.m. – 3:00 p.m. MT
More information
Tuesday, September 7
Denver, Colo.
39th & Wynkoop St. Depart 8:00 a.m. MT
La Salle, Colo.
1st Ave. Crossing Arrival
Depart 10:40 a.m. MT
10:55 a.m. MT
Greeley, Colo.
10th St. Crossing Arrival
Depart 11:25 a.m. MT
12:10 p.m. MT
Cheyenne, Wyo.
Steam Shop Arrival 1:45 p.m. MT
Big Boy 2021 Tour Route Map
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Key Definitions
On Display – In addition to day-long display hours, display days include access to the Experience the Union Pacific Rail Car. Special-edition Big Boy souvenirs also are available for sale from the merchandise tent. Admission to display days are free (no tickets required), though parking at surrounding parking facilities may involve a charge. These are the best times to see the Big Boy.

Viewing Only – Locations where fans can safely view the Big Boy. In some cases, the Big Boy will be displayed behind a fence or other perimeter. Unlike display days, the Experience the Union Pacific Rail Car will not be available for tours and merchandise will not be sold. Unless otherwise noted on the schedule, overnight stops are "viewing only."

Passenger Excursion – While listed on the steam schedule, passenger excursion tickets are sold by outside entities -- not Union Pacific -- and are not available on the day of the excursion.

No Public Access – Locations where the public is not allowed to view the Big Boy because of safety or security reasons. This usually means the locomotive will be stored within a rail yard or other Union Pacific property where live rail operations are being conducted. Non-employees who access these locations without permission will be treated as trespassers.


COVID-19 Guidelines
Union Pacific is closely following current state and local guidelines and will adhere to them. Our goal is to give everyone the opportunity to experience firsthand this historic locomotive in an outdoor setting, while adhering to proper safety measures. We're encouraging visitors to wear masks and practice social distancing while viewing the Big Boy. For those who enter our walk-through exhibit, Experience the Union Pacific Rail Car, we’re providing free masks and monitoring entry.

It will arrive in Kansas about the time I set out for the OCF. Maybe I should meet it in Salina and head for Detroit from there.

Lots of post on this Facebook page; https://www.facebook.com/groups/1556113831342149 (Fans of all steam locos)

Most Model T's had been pitched in a furnace by the time the Big Boys
were erected. The last T made was 13 years old when the first BB rolled
out of the Alco shops.

Funny it's not coming to California at all....you'd think it would since they picked it up in Pomona Ca. I suppose the California EPA wouldn't allow a real live Steam driven engine to enter California, since the agenda is electric vehicles and trains will be the wave of the future....yeah right!

I was lucky and got to see it. I have to think there was at least one model T in the parking lot at the factory where it was built.

Serious motive power from a time when men were men and women were glad of it!

I live in Cheyenne, where this "big boy" was restored and it is certainly a sight to behold! Many of the parts that were replaced had to be custom fabricated. It's impressive!

Martynn,
It DID come out to Callifunny, back in the fall of 2019, before the Pandemic. Ran some excursions for the museum that "donated" it back.

Train tour route map added.

Is that the same type engine that they have in the Henry Ford museum? Looking at any of them, and remembering they were made before the days of computer design and were done on drawing boards one page at a time is amazing and humbling!

VowellArt wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:04 am

Funny it's not coming to California at all....you'd think it would since they picked it up in Pomona Ca. I suppose the California EPA wouldn't allow a real live Steam driven engine to enter California, since the agenda is electric vehicles and trains will be the wave of the future....yeah right!

It looks like they are avoiding all of the crazy environmentalists in Florida, Georgia, and other parts of the deep South. Those progressive administrations hate all of the cool macho stuff like this…

Eric

Big Boy always drew a big crowd when it was in Arizona October 2019. Might be a bit hard to get a photo with just a car and the locomotive.
Here is a good drone video of it at Cienega Creek and Eastern AZ. https://youtu.be/12JJHX1i1y0

Califunyland may not have enough water left to fill the boiler and tender!

I thought it came back to Southern California a while back. We may never see it on the Northern part of the State, something about being unable to negotiate the Donner Pass route. There are eight of them surviving, I don’t see any of them listed at the HF museum. They are magnificent to see even when on static display. Someday I will see the living one.

Erik Barrett wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:16 pm

I thought it came back to Southern California a while back. We may never see it on the Northern part of the State, something about being unable to negotiate the Donner Pass route. There are eight of them surviving, I don’t see any of them listed at the HF museum. They are magnificent to see even when on static display. Someday I will see the living one.

Correct, Henry Ford Museum does not have one. Wish they did! I've seen 2. One in St. Louis, MO and one at Steam Town, in PA. It is humbling to stand next to one. Would love to see 4014 under steam!

There is a huge steam locomotive on display at the Henry Ford. What make and model is it?

ModelT46 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:52 pm

There is a huge steam locomotive on display at the Henry Ford. What make and model is it?

This is it... https://www.thehenryford.org/collection ... ocomotive/

Billdizer,Spencer In wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:20 pm

Califunyland may not have enough water left to fill the boiler and tender!

UP brings a train full of water in when its steamers enter California.

sometimes you can get lucky and have your car near a famous steam engine. This was, however, quite a few years ago! (and my Model A, not one of my Model Ts)

In 2019 and 2020 it was in Milwaukee and Chicago. I think if Jerry wants to see it he better make a road trip. I would be surprised if it came back to the Midwest again for a few years, but you never know.

The huge engine at the Ford museum is a Chesapeake and Ohio Alleghany. It has a wheel arrangement of 2-6-6-6 - 12 drivers instead of the Big Boy's 16. Despite this, it is thought to be heavier then the Big Boy and was built for a different purpose. The Big Boy was built primarily for hauling 100-car freight trains up Sherman Hill just west of Cheyanne, Wyoming. The Alleghany was designed as a relatively high-speed locomotive for freight and passenger service over the C and O's mountainous routes. Unfortunately, the C and O chose to use them for heavy coal drags where it was only adequate. They were built by the Lima Locomotive Works, which was sued by the C and O as they were significantly heavier then the specifications called for, and they beat up the track. The C and O won the lawsuit.
BTW: The Allegany was delivered to the Ford Museum under it's own power.

John, I appreciate the info.

#4014 draws a crowd wherever it goes. This was at Coffeyville a couple of years ago. Here's the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=621qpNRX_Jw

I was lucky enough to see all 8 survivors.

4004 WY Cheyenne Holliday Park
4005 CO Denver Forney Transportation Museum
4006 MO Saint Louis Museum Of Transportation
4012 PA Scranton Steamtown National Historic Site
4014 WY Cheyenne Union Pacific Steam Shop
4017 WI Green Bay National Railroad Museum
4018 TX Frisco Museum Of American Railroad
4023 NE Omaha Kenefick Park

Here is a picture of when the Big Boy was in Duluth, MN in 2019.

John Codman wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:25 am

The huge engine at the Ford museum is a Chesapeake and Ohio Alleghany….
BTW: The Allegany was delivered to the Ford Museum under it's own power.

According to the Henry Ford website: (the link is already in this thread)
“ How did they get it into the museum?
1601 was brought up to the Detroit area “cold” (not under its own power) on the rear of a C&O freight train. It took three attempts to get 1601 into the museum. On the first attempt the locomotive derailed on the railroad tracks behind the museum. After removing its main and side rods it was time for a second attempt. This time the locomotive made it as far as the museum’s railroad door but was unable to pass through, even though the door had been widened to accommodate it. The problem was the switch just inside the building—as 1601 started to pass over this switch its articulation caused the cab to swing over much further than anticipated. On the third attempt, following temporary modifications and component removals, the Allegheny finally passed through the door and took its place in the museum’s main exhibition hall.”

Eric

I read the one in Omaha was moved using compressed air.

I read the one in Omaha was moved using compressed air.

That's how Santa Fe #2542 got to Wilson Park.

When the ATSF retired it in 1955 they gave it to Arkansas City. A temporary track was laid down Birch Avenue from the Santa Fe line five blocks away, and the engine ran on compressed air to its new spot in the park. After 62 years it got rather bedraggled, so it was given a cosmetic rejuvenation in 2017.

I have always enjoyed steam locomotives but only had the pleasure of riding on two of them. I hope some day they will visit Ohio.

A place to see steamers in Ohio is at the Age of Steam roundhouse in Sugarcreek.
https://www.ageofsteamroundhouse.org/

If you want to run a live steam engine, you need to go to the northern Nevada railroad. There after passing a test they will let you run one 14 miles.Doing that was one of the greatest thrills of my life. To be the actual engineer of a railroad steam engine is something I will never forget