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Rim terminology
Hey still learning here. Trying to figure out the different rim styles/names. I have a 26 Tudor and am wondering what type of rims or the name of the rims I have.
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Re: Rim terminology
Those were split rims. They were standard for that year. They also came with wire spoke wheels which cost a bit more.
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Re: Rim terminology
Go down to the “Wheel”section on this page of the encyclopedia section on this site. More wheel information than you can imagine!
https://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/U-Z.htm#wheels
To help collapse and then reform split rims you may want to get one of these handy dandy split Rim tools. There are different configurations out there but this one is very common. You can find them on Ebay or ask here in the want ad section.
https://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/U-Z.htm#wheels
To help collapse and then reform split rims you may want to get one of these handy dandy split Rim tools. There are different configurations out there but this one is very common. You can find them on Ebay or ask here in the want ad section.
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Re: Rim terminology
Also some info here: http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG113.html
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Re: Rim terminology
While I read your question about the outer edge of the wheel that carries the tyre, but for other people,
....... please, please, PLEASE don't follow the modern trend of calling a wheel a 'RIM'. A rim is a part of a wheel, not the wheel itself!!!!
....... please, please, PLEASE don't follow the modern trend of calling a wheel a 'RIM'. A rim is a part of a wheel, not the wheel itself!!!!
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Re: Rim terminology
THANK YOU Dane Hawley!
Words need to mean something! And too many people just do not care enough to learn the right words.
Thank you Bryant S for caring enough!
In our modern times, the wheel and the rim might be one and the same. In many cases with older cars, they are not the same.
There are also hubs and spindles and axles as well as hub caps and bearings and a bunch of other stuff.
Our antiques also use some archaic words like the felloe (alternately 'felley', fellies, or a couple other odd spellings) which are very important to know if working on antiques. Lug clamps, fixed lug, loose lug, lug bolts, hub bolts, and other things.
Once one gets past the idea of calling the whole thing just a 'wheel' or a 'rim'? The rest of it is pretty easy to sort out.
Words need to mean something! And too many people just do not care enough to learn the right words.
Thank you Bryant S for caring enough!
In our modern times, the wheel and the rim might be one and the same. In many cases with older cars, they are not the same.
There are also hubs and spindles and axles as well as hub caps and bearings and a bunch of other stuff.
Our antiques also use some archaic words like the felloe (alternately 'felley', fellies, or a couple other odd spellings) which are very important to know if working on antiques. Lug clamps, fixed lug, loose lug, lug bolts, hub bolts, and other things.
Once one gets past the idea of calling the whole thing just a 'wheel' or a 'rim'? The rest of it is pretty easy to sort out.
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Re: Rim terminology
Felloe. The circular part into which the outer ends of wood spokes are fastened. The earlier Felloes are wood and the later ones are steel. Rim, the outer part which holds the tire and is attached to the Felloe Many of these terms come from the days of buggies and wagons. Even the type of wheels used for the early cars are constructed like wagon wheels.
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Re: Rim terminology
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Re: Rim terminology
I here the term clincher rim often and didn’t know the difference. Also should the split rims have a locking tab on them? And Iam assuming these split rims are considered de mountables ? Basically when I go for new ones I will know what to ask for
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Re: Rim terminology
Bryant, yes you have demountable split rims. There should be a locking tab, you will not see it with the rim on the wheel.
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Re: Rim terminology
I here the term clincher rim often and didn’t know the difference.
Go back to the link I posted yesterday at 11:39 PM.
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Re: Rim terminology
Clincher Rims are designed to fit Beaded Edged Tyres as in Steve's explanation. The Beaded edge and its equivalent rim was designed to hold the tyre securely in place. Very early tyre designs tended to allow the rim to turn inside the tyre and this stopped that happening, provided the tyre was inflated correctly.
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Re: Rim terminology
Thanks for that information page!Steve Jelf wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:55 pmI here the term clincher rim often and didn’t know the difference.
Go back to the link I posted yesterday at 11:39 PM.
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