Victor Head Lamp 1913?

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Victor Head Lamp 1913?

Post by Jeff Perkins » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:42 am

Is this a Victor #1 lamp? Lamp body is black, top is brass plated steel. I have never seen one of these.
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Re: Victor Head Lamp 1913?

Post by TWrenn » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:59 am

Hey Jeff!
What'd ya do, get another car to flip? LOL....sorry on the lamp...can't help ya. I know some '13s had Victor #2s, but need to have
better/more pics of this one to tell. I wish they would mark them better.
I've been down with pnuemonia the better part of a month now...slowly crawling out of the rabbit hole!

Keep calm and drive on!


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Re: Victor Head Lamp 1913?

Post by Original Smith » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:03 am

A side view would have been nice. My '13 touring came with those lamps. I think they are ugly, and chose not to use them. The tops were not brass plated steel that I'm aware of, but could have been. If I were to use them, I would brass plate the tops. All of the Victor #1 lamps are scarce, and they made two styles of tailamps, square and round. A photo of the round one I saved is pictured in Bruce's book.

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Re: Victor Head Lamp 1913?

Post by Jeff Perkins » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:04 pm

Tim,
This will be a total restoration, should keep me busy for a couple of these looooong Minnesota winters.

Larry,
I thought this may be the 1913 Victor lamp mentioned in Bruce’s book that he did not have a picture of. Here is the only other picture I have, when I get the car home I would be happy to send you more pictures.
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Re: Victor Head Lamp 1913?

Post by pre15dale » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:40 pm

I have three of the victer #1 headlights. None of them show any evidence of brass plating on the chimney which of course does not prove they were or were not not. I also have a pair of #1 side lights and 1 each of both styles tail lites


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Re: Victor Head Lamp 1913?

Post by Jim, Sr. » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:46 am

This is a NOS Victor #1, or used very little. It shows no indication of brass plating on the steel bonnet.
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Re: Victor Head Lamp 1913?

Post by George House » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:59 am

Wow pre15...! You REALLY have one of the incredibly elusive Victor #1 square tail lamps with the 4 ‘foldovers’restraining the brass chimney top with embossed script?.. how blessed you are ....and with matching cowl lamps too??
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Re: Victor Head Lamp 1913?

Post by Original Smith » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:53 am

Jim:
Thanks for posting that photo. They are around, but scarce. Donna Jones in Sebastopol has a pair of them on her '14 roadster. Kim Dobbins has a pair of them also. I saw a photo in the La Jolla history museum a few years back that showed a '13 touring with those lamps. It's the only photo of a '13 I've seen with those lamps.

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Re: Victor Head Lamp 1913?

Post by Jeff Perkins » Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:10 pm

Larry,
Interesting that your ‘13 started life with the Victor lamps. Our cars are only a week apart in assembly. Mine started life as a Touring. Whether or not mine had Victor lamps from the factory one will never know but it could be likely.
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Re: Victor Head Lamp 1913?

Post by Jim, Sr. » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:17 pm

In 2008, at the Big "T" Party in Indiana, there was a pair of Victor #1's in the swap meet that had solid brass bonnets, not plated.
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Re: Victor Head Lamp 1913?

Post by JTT3 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:46 pm

Yep Victor model 1, very early one had Brass bonnets then all steel through 13,
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