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Transmission bands

Post by Phillip » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:17 pm

I have a 1927 roadster pickup. I am installing wood bands. The bands shown for a 1927 has one wide band. All 3 bands in mine are narrow. Can I cut the wide wood band down to size. It will still have the oil groves. My motor number is 4042906. Is mine not a 27 roadster? Has engine been changed out? Did some 27s have all narrow bands and some one wide. The band so have the removable ears. (FYI) I let one on the band slide around too far so I had to remove the hogs head. :oops: :o


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Re: Transmission bands

Post by pre15dale » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:31 pm

That engine number would be may 26, 1920

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Re: Transmission bands

Post by Ruxstel24 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:19 pm

I recommend getting the correct brake band and not cutting it down.
If you cut it, the rivets and ears won't be centered anymore, unless you cut both sides.


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Re: Transmission bands

Post by Phillip » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:02 pm

The wood band is all that would need to be trimed. The wide wood band had 4 oil groves, if I trim at the 2 outside oil groves the inside 2 oil groves matches perfectly with the other 2 wood bands. All 3 steel bands are the narrow ones. When did Ford change to have one wide band?
Thanks very much for your replies and suggestions.

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Re: Transmission bands

Post by RajoRacer » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:10 pm

The "Improved" 1926 (& '27) Ford had the new, wider brake band.


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Re: Transmission bands

Post by Phillip » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:13 pm

The VIN on the title is 14654880. Would this be a 1927 body with a 1920 engine?

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Re: Transmission bands

Post by DanTreace » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:14 pm

Change to transmission brake band Aug 1, 1925
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for the Improved Car.
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Re: Transmission bands

Post by George House » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:21 pm

Philip,
You ordered wood bands based on the year model of your RPU and not engine/tranny. Yes your engine has been changed out and no; Ford didn’t make ‘27 models with some 3 narrow bands and some 2 narrow and one wide. Toward the end of Model year 1925 Ford introduced a wider service brake DRUM necessitating a wider brake band and slightly modified tranny cover. Some call it a hogshead but here in south Texas tamales are made from hogsheads. Simply get a 3rd narrow band - they’re proliferating in our garages - and call the wood band maker and buy a single narrow band....
I don’t know why I turned out this way. My parents were decent people 🤪


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Re: Transmission bands

Post by Phillip » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:06 am

Got the wood bands installed. Took it for a short drive and they work great. I found it easier for me to remove first then remove and reinstall the starter. The best advice that I got was the dental floss to tie on the washers and nuts. I have a tendency to drop small parts. With the floss I was not worried about droping the washer. Did not drop anything. ( But wrenches, bolts, and lights when under the T)
Thanks again for all the help the forum give. There is a wealth of information for the asking.

Phillip

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