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Wire wheel hubcap identification

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:32 pm
by WillsT
Newbie here..
Lost one of my rear hubcaps on my 1915 T, but can’t find an replicate on our vendors websites
Can you help identify which wheel manufacturer I have so I can try to order one or find someone’s spare

Thanks much

Will Snyders
Penn Valley, Ca

Re: Wire wheel hubcap identification

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:47 pm
by Kevin Pharis
The wheels are interesting... but have no idea what brand. I believe the cap to be home made based on the tooling marks and solid brass construction. An original would have been cast or stamped. A duplicate could be machined easily with basic mill and lathe skills

Re: Wire wheel hubcap identification

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:17 pm
by Les Schubert
I have a set of similar wheels on a car. Attached pictures
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It appears that they are supposed to have a latching mechanism!

Re: Wire wheel hubcap identification

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:45 pm
by WillsT
Yes similar but mine are screw-in using a centered roughly 3/4 inch threaded diameter stud

Thanks for the input

Will Snyders
Penn Valley, ca

Re: Wire wheel hubcap identification

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:52 pm
by ModelTWoods
I have three original magazine ads; two for HAYES and one for HOUK. Examining them, they sure look like HAYES to me. I'd post a picture of the ad, but my scanner hasn't been cooperating.

Re: Wire wheel hubcap identification

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:59 pm
by clayton swanson
the round one with a square for the wrench looks like a commercial sewer cap / plug

Re: Wire wheel hubcap identification

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:45 am
by Allan
The Hayes hubcaps with which I am familiar have external threads that engage a corresponding internal thread in the hub. Those wheels do not look like any Hayes wheel I have seen. I am leaning towards those caps and the through bolt being some kind of home made adaption.

Allan from down under

Re: Wire wheel hubcap identification

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:27 am
by DanTreace
Agree with Allan, not Hayes wires.

That white wire wheel has unique spoke lacing, at the rim.

Each hub and drum spoke are laced in the same plane, in-line with each other.
The Hayes isn't spoked that way.

And the hub center on that white wire wheel is large, so perhaps a knock off cap was used to secure, making that wheel to use unique matching front and rear hubs.

Appears now modified, with extra holes to add lug nuts to a stock Ford rear hub, that is fitted with a Rocky Mountain type larger drum. The original holes look like a set of 3. Would be there for locating the original knock off or locking nut hubs?

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Note the extra large 3 holes spaced on hub. And note lacing at the rim.


May be the wheel maker in question, has the spoke lace pattern, and has larger hub opening, and uses a special hub for fitting to a Ford. This may be the white wire wheel that has been modified to fit to a Ford hub?
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Re: Wire wheel hubcap identification

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:36 am
by Les Schubert
The self locking nut is consistent with the ones I have.

Re: Wire wheel hubcap identification

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:04 pm
by WillsT
Thank you gents for all of the feedback
I am inclined to believe the hubs are custom made and I will find someone with lathe etc to make me a new one
I will go ahead and start using locktite on all of my hubs as I also lost a much more complicated hub on my 28 Buick

Will Snyders
Penn Valley, Ca