Gas Line Details For Headlights
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Gas Line Details For Headlights
I finally wrapped up my 1913 headlight hook up today. I have some photos, but need more. I'll take them tomorrow and post the pictures then. I can say one thing for sure. The kits that Ron Gocek made were 100% incorrect, except for some of the tubing which was one foot too short!
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Here are the dimensions. Headlights 9", Frame to radiator 8", Carbide tank to frame line 28".
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Here are more photos:
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More Photos: I'm not good a taking photos, or posting them either. If you have further questions, email me directly!
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Ron Goceks kit didn't supply enough tubing for this job. A 13-14 takes 4 feet, with 3" left over maybe. I found 1/2" red rubber tubing from McMaster Carr. They delivered it in one day. Haven't had a chance to use it yet. I made the entire system from the Ford prints. I also have an original frame line, which is exactly like the Ford print. There is a hole in the frame just forward of the controller shaft for the support bracket.
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Well that certainly clears up a lot of questions about the plumbing and its routing ~! Thanks much, Larry !
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I'm sorry some of the photos are dark. Maybe the flash didn't go off. I'm hopeful that you guys can figure this out!
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Thank you for posting the photos. The setup looks great and the tee and sleeve have that "thick wall" look to them.
The photo below is on the assembly line and the little brass hose clamps sure look small. They installed the gas headlight hoses in the radiators before they came down to the line. I used clamps but I don't think they are really necessary if the hose is snug.
On your rear gas hose to the generator, I ran it over the brake rod like you have it. It was sitting on the rod so I tied the hose off to the running board support with a plastic tie. The hose was from Langs and I was afraid the rod would rub a hole in it.
Since you are going to use carbide, I am anxious to see your report. I started out with tank gas and have never used my generator.
The photo below is on the assembly line and the little brass hose clamps sure look small. They installed the gas headlight hoses in the radiators before they came down to the line. I used clamps but I don't think they are really necessary if the hose is snug.
On your rear gas hose to the generator, I ran it over the brake rod like you have it. It was sitting on the rod so I tied the hose off to the running board support with a plastic tie. The hose was from Langs and I was afraid the rod would rub a hole in it.
Since you are going to use carbide, I am anxious to see your report. I started out with tank gas and have never used my generator.
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Larry-
Nice work!
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Nice work!
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Thank You Larry. As I research and gather information to help restore my recent purchase 1913 I find this invaluable.
1913 Model T Runabout,
1926 Model T Touring,
1948 Chrysler New Yorker,
1991 Mazda Miata
1926 Model T Touring,
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1991 Mazda Miata
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Ken...what is that a picture of? Thanks
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Never mind Ken!! God I'm blind!!! Now, after CAREFULLY reading your post, I see that's
a line of radiators looking at them from the top of the tank. Sheesh! Better get to the eye doctor!! LOL
a line of radiators looking at them from the top of the tank. Sheesh! Better get to the eye doctor!! LOL
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Tim,
My mistake,
I should have put the whole photo up and an arrow to what I was talking about!
My mistake,
I should have put the whole photo up and an arrow to what I was talking about!
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I can't help this! Notice, the horns are all mounted correctly!
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Thank you sharing this, I`m close to istall my Gas line on my 1911.
Mario
Mario
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Mario
I hope you are only using this information for encouragement. The 1911 gas lines are completely different.
Keith
I hope you are only using this information for encouragement. The 1911 gas lines are completely different.
Keith
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Exactly Keith after 8 year restored my 1911 we could lost the focus ...
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