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Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:47 am

Hello fellow T'ers,
Will be posting some miscellaneous T pictures. Start with this one:
U Joint.jpg


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Re: Different T Things

Post by MichaelPawelek » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:09 am

A tiny squirt of grease should quiet things a bit….😊


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Re: Different T Things

Post by speedytinc » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:37 am

You need a super thick grease to run this one. :lol:

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Re: Different T Things

Post by TWrenn » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:29 am

Can only imagine the noise and vibration that thing made! Yet, no doubt it still made the car move! :lol:


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Post by TXGOAT2 » Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:36 am

NO problem, just pack it with sawdust and grease and drive straight to the used car lot and sell it!


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Re: Different T Things

Post by tiredfarmer » Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:51 pm

How about using JB Weld, that should fix it.


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Re: Different T Things

Post by halftracknut » Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:25 pm

turn that baby down and put a ball bearing on it?


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Kerry » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:31 pm

Back in the day, you could buy the uni in pieces, ie, male and female knuckles, pin, and rings x 2. it makes you wonder why, what would be salvageable from a stuffed uni that could be repaired by just buying one piece.


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:39 am

If I ever need a U joint, hopefully I can find a better one. :D


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:41 am

Old time repair:
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Re: Different T Things

Post by MichaelPawelek » Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:22 am

Necessity is the Mother of Invention!


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Post by Dropacent » Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:50 am

Keep’em coming. Love it!

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Re: Different T Things

Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:57 pm

Ignition switch sticks!
When did I do that?


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Rich Bingham » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:41 pm

Rich Eagle wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:57 pm
Ignition switch sticks!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
"Get a horse !"


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:23 pm

Surprisingly, the switch still works, and I wood not hesitate to use it.:D


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Les Schubert » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:54 pm

Funny thing about the U joint is that I have fixed quite successfully and used ones that looked almost that bad. The reality is that the “ring parts” actually sustain very little wear and the end pieces are not difficult to fix!!


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:28 pm

NH.jpg
Carb inlet casting crack fixed with brazed on steel collar.



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Blackie (also known as "Henry Furred")



8.jpg
Flat 8

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Re: Different T Things

Post by Craig Leach » Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:12 pm

Mother of invention? I worked for a guy who's moto was " Creating necessity by being the mother of invention" I'll bet he pays more in taxes than I make.
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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:14 am

Thanks for the comments, and also the good humor too!
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Three on the tree
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My not too fancy but works good HCCT
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Re: Different T Things

Post by Moxie26 » Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:28 am

Apply a little steel wool to the inside of that brake drum and also the pointer and you'll have a terrific spark on your test hcct. .. ..


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:10 pm

Good advice there, it does need some shining up.
I find that it's fun to fix up coils and get them back within specs.


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Re: Different T Things

Post by TXGOAT2 » Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:18 pm

"E" crankshaft?


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:08 pm

Crank.jpg
Crank shows faint AA.
Both crank and block are cracked. Good for HCCT use, though.


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:59 am

Here's what a radiator shell looks like with a runningboard script welded in:
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26 Coupe.jpg
Modifications made on '26 coupe to windshield height and header.
26 Interior.jpg



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1243 Model T type engine from 1930's auto shop class.


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Bryant » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:16 pm

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keep them coming I miss it 😀
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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:40 pm

Topper.JPG


Rod.JPG
Used this setup many years ago to bore a rebabbited connecting rod to an odd size.
Rod was clamped to the vertical bolt.



Coil.jpg
Coil once owned by Orville K Wright



Drive.JPG
Rear brake drum speedometer drive. Spring loaded and pivots on brake shoe bolt.


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:18 pm

TT Battery.jpg
TT with the gas tank moved over to allow room under the seat for a battery.



Key.jpg
Made a different coil box switch key to replace the lever key that gets kicked to off
sometimes when using brake.



26 Coupe.jpg
Working on the coupe in 1976.
Where does time go? :shock:



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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:39 pm

A few wrong T things:


Drum.JPG
These brake drum lugs are the wrong kind of 'groovy'.



Chev.JPG
If you have run across 30x31/2 rims with the valve stem hole in the wrong place,
they could have been from 1924 Chev wheels like these.




Here's a story told by an old time mechanic from back in the day:
If you wanted to rile up a Ford owner about his Model T, you would tell him
the throttle rod was the only thing keeping the motor from falling out...




And these two pictures are...just plain wrong:
Tank.jpg

Dynamite.jpg
:D


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Re: Different T Things

Post by TXGOAT2 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:43 pm

Re: TT gas tank/battery pic: A nice mix of gasoline vapor and hydrogen could give you a real kick in the pants...


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:04 pm

TXGOAT2, Thanks for the observation and heads up.
Things are wide open under the gas tank, what are the chances???
:shock:
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Re: Different T Things

Post by A Whiteman » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:39 pm

Brake shoe repair found in my TT:
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Re: Different T Things

Post by A Whiteman » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:41 pm

And an idler wheel for use in 'some' machine or another:
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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:36 pm

How many Model T's have been fixed over the years with just baling wire and pliers,
and then, how about all the handy parts left when they were dismantled!

Quite a few Fords around here were made into wagons. This was my Grandpa's.
He said it was a touring car, then made into a frame car with a homemade body in the 1920's,
and was turned into a wagon in the 1930's. Still in use years later.
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Post by RajoRacer » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:45 pm

I have a set of those demountable disc wheels on my Racer - near as I could establish, they were manufactured by a Motor Utilities Co. who also produced bolt-on "salesman" bodies for runabouts.


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Post by Nathan Pederson » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:00 pm

I looked for info on the 30x31/2 disc wheels and could only find that Chev offered them
as an option on 1924 closed cars. Motor Utilities Co. must have been making them for Chev?
Great wheels to have on your Racer!

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Re: Different T Things

Post by DanTreace » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:35 pm

These Chevy disc wheels were at Moultrie GA swap meet in Nov. Decent set of wheels, no seller info..


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:13 pm

Side by Side.jpg
A side by side 8 cylinder chassis looks to be easily buildable (although something like this might be
best left on paper).:) Just bolt frames together, cut and weld the front axles, and connect the
brake lever cross shafts. Head scratching part would be how to do the rear axle. Simplest way might
be to have each engine drive only one wheel. Add auxiliary brakes. Link up the timer and
throttle rods and you're ready to go a-T-ing!

To operate, use only the driver's side pedals for low, reverse, and brake. The passenger side engine
would remain in neutral until the hand brake lever is moved forward into high gear, and at that
point both engines power the car.


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:31 pm

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Side By Side 8 Cylinder 8 Passenger Ford Touring Car

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Re: Different T Things

Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:03 pm

That's a good one Nathan. I see that it narrows significantly towards the front. The left drive shaft doubles as a radius rod and it also has twin batteries.
Kalamity Dick sold his for $75 back in 1944.
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Post by Nathan Pederson » Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:56 pm

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Kalamity Dick= :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Post by Nathan Pederson » Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:35 pm

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1919 Ford 8


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Post by Bryant » Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:44 pm

I love it! Room for the whole family😆
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Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:29 pm

Yep, lots of room but tight on mountain curves.
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When did I do that?


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Post by Nathan Pederson » Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:37 am

Great painting there, Rich. Always fun to see it!
Narrow Track.jpg
The Ford 'narrow track' could go on even the narrowest mountain roads.
They were, however, a bit tippy.




Museum.jpg
Culture in the country.




Dashlight.jpg
Dash light cover really sparkles.
Have a great Model T day everyone!


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:56 am

Explordor.jpg
Early SUV?


Tread.jpg
Tread comparison :D


Hitch.jpg
Long ago blacksmith made this handy T hitch.


Garage.jpg
I always look forward to 'working' in the garage. Bet you do, too.
The red car has a shortened frame of 10". The reason was I thought it made the proportions better.


Bench.jpg
Grandpa's old work bench from the 1920's is still in the machine shed and is well preserved with
soaked in motor oil. Some of that oil is from Ford repairing back in the day. With the Model T era tools
on there, it could just as well be 1925.


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Tue Aug 02, 2022 1:27 pm

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The Ford TTTT Tuton Truck. Built for the man who wants extra hauling capacity and a roomier CC Cab.
Have you driven a Ford lately?

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Re: Different T Things

Post by TRDxB2 » Tue Aug 02, 2022 2:20 pm

Are these still available?
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Re: Different T Things

Post by Mark Gregush » Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:43 pm

I once used a Champion spark plug to plug a pipe fitting in my home gas line. :lol:
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

1925 Cut down pickup
1920 Dodge touring
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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:11 am

Hey Mark, we think alike!
And Frank, the availability of the 'Funny Projects' u-joint kit seems to be limited at this time. :D


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:30 pm

those spring things inside the headlight rim can be difficult to install and i didnt have one anyway
so i used an upholstery spring works great
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note also the ground wire added from the bucket to the socket and also the use of jbweld



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Re: Different T Things

Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:56 pm

The "Warm Glow,
it's beautiful beyond imagination
illuminating, radiating, pulsating
ready to merge with many souls awaiting
the ultimate infusion
force of life enlivening empty shells
emitting bolts of love and healing
to the depths of hell
evaporating the contamination
from the wishing well..."
Casey Ligon
Well Heck, maybe it isn't all that romantic but you have to like it. :lol:
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When did I do that?


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:29 pm

To experience light is truly a wondrous thing...
especially since I added that ground wire inside the bucket.
Thanks for posting the poem Rich, someone like me needs all the culture he can get!


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:30 pm

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A few years ago I started hoarding Model T jacks. They are all over around here and easy to find.
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Re: Different T Things

Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:17 pm

They are nice to have around and cheaper than axle stands. :D
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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:32 pm

Yes, they are indeed real useful as jack stands.

Update: Slightly disappointing swap meet season for jacks in 2022, as only three were found.
(However, one was for a TT)




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Re: Different T Things

Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:53 pm

I think this is a meme whatever that is.

a humorous image, video, piece of text, etc., that is copied (often with slight variations) and spread rapidly by Internet users

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Post by Nathan Pederson » Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:30 pm

Steve that's a good one :D


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:45 pm

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A yardstick is often useful for measuring.


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Re: Different T Things

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Re: Different T Things

Post by browning » Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:42 am

I wonder how fast a thirty cylinder Model T would go?

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Re: Different T Things

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:53 am

Carb inlet casting crack...

Very common, from over-tightening the fitting. I have several carb bodies with that damage.
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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:01 pm

Steve Jelf wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:53 am
Carb inlet casting crack...

Very common, from over-tightening the fitting. I have several carb bodies with that damage.
Good point there, Steve.

From my experience, sometimes a 1/8-27 NPT pipe tap is useful to just 'slightly' enlarge the threads in the inlet,
and that helps to get the elbow in the correct position and avoids cracking the casting.
I've always had good luck using Permatex #2 Non Hardening Form-A-Gasket on the threads.


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:08 pm

browning wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:42 am
I wonder how fast a thirty cylinder Model T would go?
No doubt it would have a loooooooong hood! :D





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Re: Different T Things

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Re: Different T Things

Post by TXGOAT2 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:45 am

The Gravel Road Limo looks great and would be buildable.

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Re: Different T Things

Post by Duey_C » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:33 am

Hope this OK Nate! A little cracked like the chair.
A steering device for the ones not knowing if they're coming or going. Not as twisted tho... ;)
Stopped at Bob's near Milan some years ago, headed north on 17 or 29 and stopped in. The fella gave this to me. I did buy an OT engine from him tho.
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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:26 am

Hello Duey, that is definitely a different Model T thing, fits in just right on this thread.:D


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:47 pm

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Re: Different T Things

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Got new shoes on the TT.




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Re: Different T Things

Post by Arbs » Sat Jul 22, 2023 4:00 pm

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Where is the OBD2 port on this thing?


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Post by Nathan Pederson » Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:00 am

Arbs, I'm thinking it's still going to be dripping oil for awhile yet... :D


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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:13 pm

My TT needed doors.
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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:36 pm

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"Hub Clamp" Model T Wood Wheel Puller
Here is a clamp I have designed for pulling rear wood wheels.
It is made of steel and has 2 1/8 X 24 threads to match the hub threads.


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The clamp is not screwed on. Instead, the halves are placed onto the hub
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For now I have a 3 jaw puller that works with it.
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Re: Different T Things

Post by speedytinc » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:35 pm

Thats a fine idea.
Better than a stock, screw on type puller if the threads a a bit worn.
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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:50 am

Speedytinc,
I would have a clamp available for someone to help evaluate the fit on different
hubs and the overall usefulness.

There is only a 5/8" space between the back of the clamp and the hub flange, so
not all puller jaw ends will work with it. A robust puller with compact jaw ends is needed.

I am looking at ways to incorporate a puller bolt or bolts into the design to make
a self contained unit.

The goal is a tool that will pull even the real stuck hubs.


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Post by speedytinc » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:14 pm

I see the beauty in the simplicity & economy of manufacture. 5/8 is plenty of room for more period correct pullers. Thinking Proto bar type.
I could see an encapsulating housing such as a KRW type pinion puller. But that would make mfg/time cost rise exponentially.


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Post by Nathan Pederson » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:54 am

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Proto Bar puller looks like a good way to go with this.
Thanks for the comments!

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Re: Different T Things

Post by Duey_C » Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:48 pm

Hope this one is OK also. Found my new cheater pipe! Real photo. Wanted it the other way round but the steering shaft hole is too small.
A grouchy click from today as I stepped back from fighting with OT's. I put it on and thought :lol:
Cheater pipes hid while this looked at me from the corner. Test ME out.
When 330 ft lbs are out, grab the Century Tube, they're stout!
There's still soft grease inside and wiped right off the breaker bar. Actual photo.
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Re: Different T Things

Post by Nathan Pederson » Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:21 am

Duey, that sure is a resourceful use of the column and also a very interesting description of the process besides! :D

Speaking of leverage, old T driveshafts make excellent pry bars. Grandpa always kept this one around the sawmill.
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Re: Different T Things

Post by robert daniello » Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:49 am

Nathan Pederson wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:13 pm
My TT needed doors.
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Something that moves slowly, and a tortoise.


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Re: Different T Things

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