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Can someone give me an idea as to what car this is?

Could be a 1909-10 Hudson Model 20. Can't expand it enough to tell for sure.

The 1909-10 Hudson had rounded front fenders. This one has flat front fenders?

This one has me stumped, but it looks a bit like these 1910 Overland Model 42's.
The bodies are different on all three cars though, different coachworks?

The curve of the rear fender, as it slopes into the running board, is very distinctive.

I don't recall a rear fender that curves into the running board like that. That would be a identifying feature. The larger Mitchells did as did the later Dodges but definitely not them.
Oops! I was typing while Jerry posted.

I'm guessing Stevens Duryea? Just a guess.

This was a local car when picture was taken. So far I haven’t found anything with that rear fender curving into the running board. Anyone else have any ideas?

Could it be a Marmon - model/year?? Problem its an artist rendering or enhanced photo
Similarities: fender curve at running board, running board brackets, steering linkage, 10 spoke wheels (others cars have 14), seat curve, horn bulb & lever arms)
There are things that match but are fairly common - door panels etc
Things not matching is the tail of the rear fender --
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Notice the door trim on the Overland - likely an artist error

You have done a lot better than I have. I did notice the 10 spokes on the front wheels and the 12 on the rears. Not sure if this was common back then or not. Lots of cars I have looked at have that flat on the rounded rear fender including Packards, Mitchell’s and even foreign cars.
I am more inclined to believe this car is a Marion as you have shown by all the similarities.
Thanks You!

Nice ID Frank! I looked at a few hundred pictures without coming close. I believe you nailed it. https://i.pinimg.com/564x/08/53/9a/0853 ... 853404.jpg pinterest.com
Except for different choices in lights and windshield (options) I can't see any dissimilarities.
Thanks
Rich

Rich,
The picture you posted is dead on except for the front fenders. No doubt it is a Marion.
I always notice the horns on these old cars. Some are mounted with the bell up and some are mounted with the bell down. This one is a right hand drive car, do you think it has a left hand drive horn on it?
Thanks,
Robbie

Oops! I did not notice the front fenders. Perhaps a different Model or a year change.
I don't know much about horn configurations. Perry Kete might suggest its for a high tone or a low tone.
There are horn experts who know much more.
Thanks.
Rich

I couldn't find many pictures of different years & models for a Marmon. There is only one difference I see between the two and that is the tip of the front fenders. But the curved line under the side lamp is another very unique feature. Agree on windshield & lamp differences

Here we go. Straight front fender. I think I can read 1910 on the third line below the enlargement. I hope better stuff is out there.
Rich

P. S. Frank, the curved line under the side lamp is probably a speedometer cable.

Frank,

The curved line under the lamp is present in both photos, just harder to see in the lower photo. You can, however, spot it beneath the fender. Assuming the cable goes through the fender apron on its way to the speedo. (BTW, Marion... not Marmon)

This one the front fender matches but not the rear fender. 1-28-09

Similar to the last one. I had forgotten that Harry Stutz was Chief Engineer for Marion in 1906. He designed and raced the sports model the "Bobcat".

Nice detective work and beautiful cars, thanks for sharing. The green car appears to have 5 top supports and the original b&w car appears to have 4? Different b/c different suppliers of optional tops at the time?

That is a worthy observation James. The second picture above shows a "Flyer" without a top suggesting it was an addition. Likely several types were available. Spare tire and tool box are other options.
These threads do allow us to broaden our knowledge base.
Thanks
Rich

Great Work People. I love discovering a time gone by!

That car is probably long gone but at least it will live forever in a photograph. At least we know about what type of car it was. I don’t think I have ever heard of a Marion until now. Looked pretty nice for a 1909. It belonged to a local Family here in my hometown.
Thanks for all the help.
Robbie