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Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:30 pm
by bmklawt
Can someone tell me if this is a 1927 Model T frame, it is listed on Facebook and I need a new frame for my 1927 Touring.
Your help is greatly appreciated,
Bruce
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:38 pm
by Kerry
Yes it is. 26/27
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:39 pm
by Dropacent
Grab it !!
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:03 pm
by George House
It is 26-27 but you’ll need running board supports unique to 26-27. They’ll have 2 bolt holes at each end of the supports.
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:16 pm
by DanTreace
Y
es. Later frame too, as it has the flanges, and likely made after Feb. 1926 when the frame rails were thickened to .180"-.200".
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:00 pm
by John kuehn
Better get it before somebody else does. When you go to buy it be sure to ask if they have anymore “old stuff” laying around. That looks like an unmolested frame that’s in pretty good shape. It makes you wonder why. It’s an easy item to pick up and put it the back of a pickup.
Good luck!
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:44 pm
by Farmer J
What would a cleaned and painted 27 be worth
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:01 pm
by Wayne Sheldon
The frame should have a serial number on the top of the frame rail near where the brake handle is attached on the bottom. It could be on either the right or left rail. That number should give you a pretty good idea of about when the frame became a car. Early 1926 model year frames are different than later frames, and would matter for a correct car. However, this one is somewhere between early 1926 calendar year (a good four months into the model year!), and there are only minor differences from that until the end of production.
Value? In generally good condition, minus the running board brackets? I would think somewhere between fifty and a hundred dollars. Values do vary around the country because some areas have more supply while other areas have more demand. Nice frames in my area seem to go for a bit more.
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:05 pm
by Wayne Sheldon
Cleaned and painted? I think I heard a very nice 1926/'27 frame, near me, with running board brackets. Straight, sandblasted, and primed, went for about $250 a couple years ago.
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:22 pm
by dobro1956
That is a good looking 1927 frame. It's the later stronger frame with the flanged rear cross member. I would jump on it since you need it.
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:32 pm
by Dropacent
After you rivet a new front and rear crossmember on a set of rails, you will say “ I’d have paid $1000 for a good one”
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:56 pm
by bmklawt
Well I've spent $360.00 looking for a frame and I still don't have one, I bought a frame earlier for $200.00 but found out it was a 1924 frame after I bought it, I was not educated enough at the time I bought it to know what I should be looking for. Today I drove for three hours and spent $120.00 in gas to pick up the frame pictured above, that frame had been sold a few weeks ago and the seller had a "better frame" for me, the better frame had front end damage, it was missing a bracket on one side and the other side was missing, they would need to be riveted on if I could find one. You would think the seller would have told me the frame in the picture was not the one actually for sale, seller didn't think that was a big deal, I was a little bummed. I spent $40.00 on a new rear and front cross member from a MTFCA member, that is the only money I've spent so far that's been worth while.
I'm going to post a wanted add for the brackets I need for mine and just try and fix what I have, I'm frustrated.
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:05 pm
by John kuehn
Sorry about the misinformation you got. Well yeah it does make a difference! Guess the guy was thinking since it’s a Model T frame that there all the same and no big deal?..
Yeah there are differences and especially when the one in the picture is not the one he was selling.
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:37 pm
by kmatt2
Bruce, If the frame in your frist picture is the frame that you thought you were buying, but the seller didn’t tell you that it wasn’t the one he currently had for sale, the seller is a crook. That is called bate and switch, it is not just a oops on the seller’s part.
In the old days this sort of thing use to happen a lot when buying parts from grainy Polaroid photos. Try finding a street-rodder in your area that has a nice 1926-27 frame left over from a project that they are to busy to take to a swap-meet. There are good frames out there in your area you will find one.
Re: Is this a 1927 frame?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:51 am
by TRDxB2
bmklawt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:56 pm
Well I've spent $360.00 looking for a frame and I still don't have one, I bought a frame earlier for $200.00 but found out it was a 1924 frame after I bought it, I was not educated enough at the time I bought it to know what I should be looking for. Today I drove for three hours and spent $120.00 in gas to pick up the frame pictured above, that frame had been sold a few weeks ago and the seller had a "better frame" for me, the better frame had front end damage, it was missing a bracket on one side and the other side was missing, they would need to be riveted on if I could find one. You would think the seller would have told me the frame in the picture was not the one actually for sale, seller didn't think that was a big deal, I was a little bummed. I spent $40.00 on a new rear and front cross member from a MTFCA member, that is the only money I've spent so far that's been worth while.
I'm going to post a wanted add for the brackets I need for mine and just try and fix what I have, I'm frustrated.
I have the corner brackets for the front cross member and the brackets that go on the rails as in the first picture. Could trade for you old front cross member. Send me an email and we can discuss etc