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Would like to know what make and model is of this car.
Thanks

I would say it is a Model 30 Cadillac. I'm guessing an early one maybe 1909 or so. The kick-up in the frame is a notable feature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Model_Thirty
Rich

The unique steering wheel spider should help ID it. Also the relatively low seating, especially the rear. 10 spoke wood wheels on the front 12 spoke on the rear
Still searching
Steering wheel looks like it might be an Auburn BUT ITS NOT ONE

Steve I do not have the actual photo. It was sent to me via text and ask if I knew what it was.
I have had two say that it was a Cadillac model 30 .

Steve Jelf wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:31 pm

Can you scan it (no camera) and make it a much bigger file? That might reveal some clues that aren't obvious in this tiny size.

Besides steering wheel and spokes, rear fender and door handle

Frank, I wouldn't bank on an Auburn going on the information given on the photo. They can't spell Auburn, they don't know coupe from a roadster, and can't spell coupe either. That steering wheel certainly looks similar though.

Allan from down under.

Allan wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:20 pm

Frank, I wouldn't bank on an Auburn going on the information given on the photo. They can't spell Auburn, they don't know coupe from a roadster, and can't spell coupe either. That steering wheel certainly looks similar though.

Allan from down under.

Agree its NOT an Auburn. I corrected the image so its no part of further discussions
I found several cars with the 10/12 spokes, some with the steering wheel , 1 or 2 with the door handle and some Tourings with flat rear fenders, and some short side wall but none with more than 2 of those matching items.

Appears to be a Chalmers 30 miniature tonneau. Pretty sure it's an 11. I had an 11 touring. I regret selling it

Here's the other one blown up. What is the thing between the front wheel and the edge of the picture?

I think Brian nailed it. Here are some pictures of a 1910 Chalmers I found on the internet.

It's a 1910 Chalmers-Detroit "Forty" Pony Tonneau.

Refer to this catalog:

https://www.chuckstoyland.com/category/ ... roit-1910/

I couldn't find a period photo of a Pony Tonneau but I did find some of a Roadster. The difference between the Pony Tonneau and the Roadster is the rear seat.

https://digitalcollections.detroitpubli ... a%3A199875

https://digitalcollections.detroitpubli ... a%3A199929

https://digitalcollections.detroitpubli ... a%3A196986

If you scroll down on this page, you will see two Roadsters:

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2010/1 ... s-chalmers

The Fountainhead museum has a 1910 Chalmers-Detroit Roadster but it has a brass radiator and later headlamps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZZxLIHsE5E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpT0-Q0VFQA

Geeze Louise....

I was composing my epic post above while someone else posted the correct answer.

If you do pull up the catalog I referenced, you'll see that it is a Pony Tonneau.

Looks like a match to most every unique indictor - even the slant of the door handle. The questionable items could be accessories, photo perspective - whatever. I think that the "what's that to the right of the photo" may be caused by the reflect in t he brass headlamp

Thanks to all the great response. It is much appreciated!!!

Steve Jelf wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:33 pm

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Here's the other one blown up. What is the thing between the front wheel and the edge of the picture?

Steve , I think the sidelights and headlights are covered in canvas bags.

Thanks for mentioning Chalmers. I stand corrected. So many features look similar.
Always learning.
Rich

Here is a scanned copy( as requested by Steve) of the Car with much clearer details .