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I have a 1914 touring and I'm trying to put together a set of side lights and tail lights for the touring. I have looked at the Encyclopedia and It shows black and white pictures of the lights. It shows that Brown 100 and 115 and the Victor 2 as appropriate for that year.

I have seen various lights for sale with clear beveled glass, red round lens about 3" in diameter, small flat red lens about 2" in diameter, and small red jewels. I believe that the Brown 115 tail lights may have had a blue lens as well. The Victor side lights may have two styles of mounting brackets - the bar mount with set screw and "butterfly" wing brackets that screw into the firewall. i mention Brown and Victor since i have some of these but most need repairs.

I would appreciate help in identifying which combination of square, clear glass and colored lens/jewels are appropriate for 1914. If this has already been discussed in a previous post, a link to this discussion would be appreciated.

Thanks for the help

14 had a transition in lamp style, earlier had the jewel as did the 13 style, later the jewel was replaced with a blank steel panel.

Don’t overlook Corcoran ‘14 cowl lamps and the ever popular E&J ‘14 cowl lamps And the lamps you see with the round 3” lens is a tail lamp. Inboard of that lens you’ll see a clear glass lens meant to “shine” on the license plate. Opposite the clear lens will be a blue/green lens next to the LR fender.

James, these are the sidelights and taillight on my 14 Touring. The Jno Brown sidelights are Model 110. You mention Model 100 in your post, that model is for a 12. The taillight is a Jno Brown Model 115. Blue lens to the driver side, red lens to the rear, clear lens pointed at the license plate. These lights have all been restored but retain the original configuration of black and brass. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any more questions.

I don't think anyone mentioned this but I believe that some of the later side lamps in '14 had integral mounting brackets.

Yes that’s true, late 14.

And 1913 Victor # 1 had cast iron mounting brackets. I know because I sold a pair to Dale Kemmerer.

That’s right George, even though not numbered those were the first and I really like the embossing of the Ford on the early Victors. I have them on my 13 with the unusual tail light & Victor # 1 headlights with the steel smoke bonnet. They are just very well made and look great.

Thanks for all of the responses.

How do you remove dents from the brass tops?

What is the secret to cleaning the reflectors on the inside of these lights?

Any help is appreciated.

James, fashion a concave hard wood dowel of approximate size and shape of the dent. Find a sand box and remove the lamp font. Turn the lamp upside down in the sand box and insert the dowel through the bottom of the lamp up through the chimney onto the dented part. Lightly tap dowel prn. ...John; I’m in witness protection and you’ve blown my cover. Now I haveta move

George a correction has mysteriously appeared.

George, I tried your method but the dent can’t be reached by a straight dowel. It is farther to the outside of the top so I need to find something with a slight curve. Also, the brass tops have an inner liner so how do you get past that to reach the dent in the brass top?
Any help is appreciated.