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Brake pedal conversion

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:59 am
by Robert Bente
I’m in the process of installing Bennett external brakes. I want to include the drum brake but need to adapt the peddle somehow so it has the cam.
Suggestions are appreciated.
Left picture is the peddle with a short shaft and no cam.
Bob Bente
Redding, Ca.

Re: Brake pedal conversion

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:02 pm
by Jerry VanOoteghem
Weld an arm onto the original Ford brake pedal.

Re: Brake pedal conversion

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:24 pm
by speedytinc
Jerry VanOoteghem wrote:
Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:02 pm
Weld an arm onto the original Ford brake pedal.
Yes, that was the normal operation with R/M brake kits. They came with a piece of steel & location instructions for welding.
You can buy a new cast R/M brake pedal with cams.(May not say bennet)
I have seen recently on this forum a pedal like yours where cams from another pedal were crudely arc welded on. (May be in the for sale section)

Either way, you are wise to have/retain your inside brake function with your R/M brakes.

Re: Brake pedal conversion

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:45 pm
by RajoRacer
That's appears to be an early, original "Pike's Peak" pedal - I have one of each with no cam. I agree with John about retaining the internal service brake - can't have too many brakes on a Model T !!!

Re: Brake pedal conversion

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:35 pm
by CudaMan
The vendors sell a RM brake pedal with the cam already installed, I have one on my 1924. Be careful installing it, don't drop a pedal spring down into the transmission and then have to fish it out like I did. :)

https://www.modeltford.com/item/RMB-PED1.aspx

Re: Brake pedal conversion

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:14 pm
by Robert Bente
Thank for the tips. I have a “pikes peak patent pending pedal” for trade towards a R/M pedal if anyone is interested.
Mark, I let a nut slip thru my grubby fingers. I’m hoping to flush it out thru the oil drain hole.

Bob…

Re: Brake pedal conversion

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:24 pm
by Scott_Conger
...I let a nut slip thru my grubby fingers. I’m hoping to flush it out thru the oil drain hole
One word answer: Nope
One word solution: Endoscope

Re: Brake pedal conversion

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:37 pm
by speedytinc
Robert Bente wrote:
Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:14 pm
Thank for the tips. I have a “pikes peak patent pending pedal” for trade towards a R/M pedal if anyone is interested.
Mark, I let a nut slip thru my grubby fingers. I’m hoping to flush it out thru the oil drain hole.

Bob…
Crap!!
Welcome to the fishing club.
You might want to review past fishing expeditions for how its done. Learn from our collective OOOPS.
"Hoping" & "flushing" aint gonna get it. The nut, if you could get it into the drain pocket, past the baffle, wont fit thru the drain plug hole.
It does give the opportunity to snag & attach a long wire to it. Dropped hardware must go out the same way it goes in. Sorry. Some folks will leave the nut in the sump, captured under the baffle plate.

Gotta love Scotts brevity.

Re: Brake pedal conversion

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:27 pm
by CudaMan
Here's how I got the band spring out:

I used a flexible wand with a magnetic tip through the oil drain hole to find, touch and push the band spring up the back slope of the pan until a helper could see it through the inspection opening. It took multiple attempts, but eventually my helper exclaimed "I see it!".

With the spring visible from above and held there with the magnetic wand, I used a second wand with gripper tangs to grip the spring firmly and pull it up and out the top inspection opening. :)

Re: Brake pedal conversion

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:41 am
by pre15dale
Robert, I have a Bennet pedal minus the shaft that I would part with