17-18 Coupelet mystery
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17-18 Coupelet mystery
Mark Eyre and I are a little perplexed. Last week he bought what appears to be a 17-18 Coupelet but some details are mysterious. Have the doors been changed? Is it a transitional car? The wood is highly intact and it appears largely original. Obviously some pictures are worth a thousand words so we're interested in hearing what you think.
1913 Touring
1925 Touring
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1927 Fordor (2)
1927 Touring
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1925 Touring
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Re: 17-18 Coupelet mystery
Here are a few more pictures.
1913 Touring
1925 Touring
1926 Touring
1927 Fordor (2)
1927 Touring
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1925 Touring
1926 Touring
1927 Fordor (2)
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Re: 17-18 Coupelet mystery
One more pair of photos
1913 Touring
1925 Touring
1926 Touring
1927 Fordor (2)
1927 Touring
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1925 Touring
1926 Touring
1927 Fordor (2)
1927 Touring
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Re: 17-18 Coupelet mystery
Here’s an earlier post about Couplet changes
https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/4 ... 1388868942
https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/4 ... 1388868942
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Re: 17-18 Coupelet mystery
It has removable center posts. I will restore it eventually. I’m missing the side lamp brackets that have 4 countersunk screws that hold them to the body. I have seen it on two different Ford documents one calling it a Coupe and the other calling it a Couplet. Thoughts on which it is exactly? I can’t figure out how to post pictures I did it some time ago and couldn’t today so I asked Eric to post them.
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Re: 17-18 Coupelet mystery
I have a pair of those brackets. I have been using them to mount a pair of lights on an out building. If no one else comes up for a pair, I will let these go at a reasonable price.
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Re: 17-18 Coupelet mystery
Is that a battery access door in the floor of the rear compartment? The hinge does not look like any factory hinge I have seen. Perhaps the door is a modification to make the body fit a later frame at some stage.
Allan from down under.
Allan from down under.
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Re: 17-18 Coupelet mystery
"Coupe", "couplet", and "couplette" were all used in era advertising. Some people get rather persnickety about one or another word. I usually call the removeable pillar coupes a "couplet" myself, but for no particular reason.
Is this the one that was advertised in our classified section a short while ago? I never did follow the link to the photos. This looks like a pretty good start to a very rare model T!
I am not sure what your questions are? But it does appear that the gasoline tank was in the trunk originally. I know that some of them were. You should of course check with Russ Furstnow. He is the couplet expert. I "think" I heard he added a removeable pillar couplet to his lineup? (But I could be mistaken?) I believe it is a future restoration project?
I am not sure how many removeable pillar coupelets there are now? The count was less than ten a few years ago, although I am not sure if that included a couple known bodies or not. A few more have been found since, including a couple bodies only. Still very rare by model T standards.
This appears to be either late 1917 or 1918 style, with the flat roof? The "hump" top was only produced for a few months in mid 1917.
Great project regardless! I am positively green!
Is this the one that was advertised in our classified section a short while ago? I never did follow the link to the photos. This looks like a pretty good start to a very rare model T!
I am not sure what your questions are? But it does appear that the gasoline tank was in the trunk originally. I know that some of them were. You should of course check with Russ Furstnow. He is the couplet expert. I "think" I heard he added a removeable pillar couplet to his lineup? (But I could be mistaken?) I believe it is a future restoration project?
I am not sure how many removeable pillar coupelets there are now? The count was less than ten a few years ago, although I am not sure if that included a couple known bodies or not. A few more have been found since, including a couple bodies only. Still very rare by model T standards.
This appears to be either late 1917 or 1918 style, with the flat roof? The "hump" top was only produced for a few months in mid 1917.
Great project regardless! I am positively green!
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Re: 17-18 Coupelet mystery
It was on a 21 chassis. I have the original frame. It doesn’t have the holes for a carrier. The gentleman I purchased it from was going to build a rat rod out of it. I have the body and the frame and the title. It originally was an 18.
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Re: 17-18 Coupelet mystery
Thanks for saving the Coupe body from being a rat rod!! It’s to bad that some T’ and A’s wind up and get ruined to that fate. To each his own what they do with their car.