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Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by fredserfass12 » Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:15 am

How much a job is it to install a gas lamp hook up kit on a 1914 Model T Touring? Any suggestions will be appreciated.


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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by Scott_Conger » Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:53 am

Fred

you'll get your answer from respondents, but please do not use any copper AT ALL in the lines if you intend to actually use them with carbide. Acetylene gas and copper combine over time to make explosive salts. Additionally, any brass fitting of an alloy of greater than 66% copper should be avoided.

It's not something to fool around with.

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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by Original Smith » Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:04 am

Who is making a gas line a gas line hook up kit? I haven't heard of such a kit! And yes, the parts need to be brass.


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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:38 am

After six years, the sun has pretty much trashed the red rubber tubing I used on my sytem. There was discussion a while back as to what kind of tubing is most like original, and/or available currently. Any updates ? I need to replace it while Lizzie is in for winter maintenance.
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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by Dan Haynes » Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:47 am

Rich -
I went on Amazon for the red rubber gas hose. It is cheap from a scientific supply house (forgot the name, sorry).
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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by fredserfass12 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:20 am

Great point on the use of copper tubing . Lang's sell the kit, catalog " BL-T and it does contain copper tubing and parts. I don't intend using the lights but maybe another future owner would do so. Thank you to all the respondents to my post.


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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:35 am

fredserfass12 wrote:
Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:20 am
. . . Lang's sell the kit, catalog " BL-T and it does contain copper tubing and parts . . .
:shock: Wow ! That's a lapse ! Someone should point that out to them. When I re-plumbed the acetylene lines on my T, they sold rigid brass tubing in straight lengths, used for the gasoline line as well. I didn't check to see if they still carry that item.
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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by Original Smith » Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:18 pm

I can't believe Lang's would be selling parts that should not be used!


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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by Les Schubert » Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:35 am

I am working on a project (speedster) and am installing acetylene headlamps (nickel plated). Thinking about this I am considering using Stainless tubing. Quite available where I live. Anything I should be concerned about?


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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by Original Smith » Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:02 am

I'm working on my own kit now. I found some Tee's on ebay that I believe when I do some modifying will be the same as original. I'll see soon!


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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by fredserfass12 » Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:46 am

When installing the gas lamp tubing that I believe is around 8 feet long, how and where is it attached to the car, and does it remain straight or are bends required. Once attached hooking up the rubber hoses to it should be relatively easy.


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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by fredserfass12 » Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:47 am

When installing the gas lamp tubing that I believe is around 8 feet long, how and where is it attached to the car, and does it remain straight or are bends required. Once attached hooking up the rubber hoses to it should be relatively easy.

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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by CudaMan » Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:20 pm

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I bought the brass tubing and red gas hose for my 1912 Flanders 20 from McMaster Carr. I couldn't find a one piece brass tee that would fit the tubing, so I ended up using a brass water plumbing tee with compression fittings. It doesn't look correct, but it works. I used my brake flare tool to bulge the tubing on the ends to help hold the hose. Some people solder a compression fitting onto the end of the tubing to make the bulge, it works just as well.

The vendors offer brass clamps for the hose ends and I bought some, but I haven't installed them. I'm pretty sure Ford didn't use clamps. Larry Smith will correct me if I'm mistaken. :)
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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by TWrenn » Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:41 pm

Original Smith wrote:
Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:18 pm
I can't believe Lang's would be selling parts that should not be used!
Well, believe it Larry! It's listed as copper tubing in both Langs and Snyders. Reckon the best alternative is the brass fuel line as Rich said.


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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:52 pm

TWrenn wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:41 pm
. . . It's listed as copper tubing in both Langs and Snyders . . .
Yup. The online catalog clearly shows a coil of soft copper tubing.
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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by slang250 » Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:29 pm

We can either sale the kit with Brass or Copper tubing but we do not have a supplier for a correct looking Tee fitting out of brass tough.

If you would like brass tubing instead of copper let us know when you order the kit.

We will update the website shortly about the issue if you are going to make it functional and using copper.

Thank You Steve Lang


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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by fredserfass12 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:18 am

i read the post that Steve Lang sent on Saturday that the gas Lamp Hook Up kit Lang's have listed in their catalog and Online can be ordered with either copper or brass tubing. I called this morning to order the kit with the brass tubing only to be told that the kits are not available at the present time due to problems getting some of the parts in the kit. i was asked to call in a week or so and they should have more information on the availability of the kit.

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Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Post by dykker5502 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:33 pm

Hm - I better write to Langs and ask for just the brass tube. I bought the kit and was not aware of the issue with copper at the time of ordering. Returning it for swap will be to expensive and I can use the copper tupe for other applications.
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