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It is generally stated that there were just over 15 Million Model Ts produced. I have a theory that the total number was considerably more. Starting in the beginning of 1913 Canadian production started with serial number C1 and ended above number C787,000. My question is, “Are there any other serial numbers used for production outside of the USA and Canada”? Early Canadian production up until 1913 used US made blocks and serial numbers ( I have owned a early block with a shipping invoice that stated Shipped to Canada ) It did not have any other information normally found on the shipping document other then it was shipped to Ford of Canada. Is the true number closer to 15,787,000 Model T’s produced?

What about east coast/west coast cars with the same serial numbers. Tax dodge truth or myth?

“Are there any other serial numbers used for production outside of the USA and Canada”?

I believe engines were made in Detroit, Windsor, Long Island, and Manchester. From 1913, Canada had its own serial numbers. You will see notes in the Detroit records noting "2000 numbers sent to Manchester" or "1000 numbers sent to L.I." So the UK production was included in the numerical sequence for Detroit. How about other assembly plants in Europe? Did their engines come from Manchester? How about South America? Did Argentina use USA engines, or did they make their own?

There may be some truth to the idea that there were more Model Ts produced than 15 Million. Too, if the motor production number is what identifies as totaling 15 M. there are more than 15 million motors out there.

Considering that the myth that HF made every thing in house, the first ford motors (1907-1909) was made under contract. Not by Ford.