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A Model T tool I have never seen before
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:07 pm
by vech
I'm sure all you long time T owners may have seen one of these, but since I have owned and worked on T models for only the last 5 years, this one is new to me.
A friend of mine, who owns some model T's, was given this tool as a Christmas present. Since I have not found any reference to this tool on the forum, I thought I'd show it to you, along with the original ad for the tool.
I'm sure many of you have seen one, but not I.
Re: A Model T tool I have never seen before
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:15 pm
by Tadpole
Now that I have, I need one! Thank you for sharing!
Re: A Model T tool I have never seen before
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:39 pm
by kmatt2
Back in the 1970’s I talked about new T Fords with quite a few local farmers that grew up to adults in the 1915-1925 time line. They said that the pan to engine bolts were always loose after Ford stopped using split pins from the factory. One farmer that I knew well, told me that when he brought a new 1918 T touring, that he didn’t make it the five miles home with it not leaking large amounts of engine oil. He had to tighten up the bolts and find the split pin holes in order to the install the split pins that Henry left out, the bolts were drilled and the castle nuts were installed from the Ford factory, but no split pins.
Re: A Model T tool I have never seen before
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:01 pm
by Scott_Conger
That tool is not very commonly found. It was made by at least 2 different manufacturers and interestingly enough, I have found that there are at least 2 different sizes available...one fits T pans like the ad shows and the other fits ???
Being a tool nut, if I didn't have one, I'd move heaven and earth to get one. In reality it is far less useful or friendly to use than you'd think...but it looks cool.
Re: A Model T tool I have never seen before
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:08 pm
by John kuehn
Hadn’t seen that one but a good idea! Like a lot of people I use a back up and it’s usually a short box end to accomplish this and I’m one of those people that use lock washers.
Re: A Model T tool I have never seen before
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:53 pm
by Russ T Fender
How would that tool work with engine pans?
Re: A Model T tool I have never seen before
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:18 pm
by speedytinc
Russ T Fender wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:53 pm
How would that tool work with engine pans?
It wont. I makes for a neat wall hanger.
I have not considered this tool worthy to take space in my tool chest. And I am a tool junkie.
Of no use with pans in place. The tool wont fit all the bolts on a crankcase.(cant reach the 2 bolts behind the crank pulley.)
Where you would think it would be most useful would be on the hogs head for frequent band changes. Nope, there are a few bolts under the pedals & clutch lever where it wont fit. You still need other tools to get the job done that can do the job completely anyway.
Its closer to another of many model T snake oil products than an important mechanics tool in practice.
Re: A Model T tool I have never seen before
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:58 pm
by FordFool
I had four of them once. I have used them and they work well on most of the bolts, one tool instead of two. Nice speed wrench.
Re: A Model T tool I have never seen before
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:25 am
by modeltspaz
One of the manufacturers that produced this tool was a company in Chicago called Bog Tool Company.
I found a few wrenches marked Bog at an Elks fundraiser
rummage sale at the Downey, California lodge. None were the tool illustrated above, unfortunately, but since I had never heard of the Bog Tool Company, I started Googling.
It turns out that Bog Tool Company was founded by the brother of George Pepperdine, who started Western Auto Company, and U. C. Pepperdine which was funded from the profits of selling "Spurious" Model T parts. At the time I started researching, there was little known about Bog. They did supply primarily tools aimed at Ford repair and the main resaler of Bog was, you guessed it! Western Auto.
Since my first initial search, much more has come to light regarding the history of the Bog Tool Company.
I urge you to look up the name of Bog Tool Company. What is known is somewhat interesting. Well, for me anyway.
Best Regards,
Mike.
Re: A Model T tool I have never seen before
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:29 pm
by Sean Butler
John isn't the only junkie out there. Back in my jack-hammering days I unearthed this baby, along with a Model T front leaf spring assembly under a concrete slab at an industrial building. Cleaned up pretty well. And, yes. It just hangs in the shop. It's a BOG.
Re: A Model T tool I have never seen before
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:10 pm
by John kuehn
I have a 1926 Western Auto parts supply book for mostly Model T’s. It lists most all the Ford T tools and a few other aftermarket tools but not this one. It must have been a short lived tool that didn’t catch on. Maybe it’s listed in other Western Auto parts books.