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Is this a small rear drum on my 26? If so I jave ordered the wrong size Rocky's

Yes, That's a small drum. Also, I'm not sure if the "Rockys" will fit with the Hassler shocks.

I was planning on removing the Hasslers but made the assumption that they were large drums on since it was a 26
Lesson learned

The AC brakes may work. Maybe??

67pontiac wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:57 pm

Yes, That's a small drum. Also, I'm not sure if the "Rockys" will fit with the Hassler shocks.

The issue is that the most of the after-market shocks have a perch the extends just over the drum. So no shocks with Sure Stop as well
The product description and instructions both include the this note --
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And it looks like the work with original AC brakes https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/5 ... 1462493500

That's a small drum rear end. More than likely the car is a 25. Pictures of the fenders, cowl, and windshield post will tell the year.

26? It's what the title said anyway

Yes, it's a '26, but it has the earlier rear axle.

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:31 am

Yes, it's a '26, but it has the earlier rear axle.

Look @ the cover 26 in the recent "vintage ford" Body is 26 on an earlier chassis & fenders.

speedytinc wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:52 am

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:31 am

Yes, it's a '26, but it has the earlier rear axle.

Look @ the cover 26 in the recent "vintage ford" Body is 26 on an earlier chassis & fenders.

How is that a '26 body? If it were, the earlier hood would not fit up with the cowl. It would also have a 1 pc. windshield and a different visor. The top of the cowl would have arch to it, instead of straight. The "A" pillar does not continue down to the bottom of the body, ending in a flared bottom, as the 26's do. I see that the photo credit also calls it a '26. Can't see why.

P.S. Eric, this is a side discussion, not relavent to your car. Sorry.

Hi Eric. Do you have the engine number? That may help with the year ID. Looks 26 to me.

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:31 am

Yes, it's a '26, but it has the earlier rear axle.

Visually this appears the case.
The 30 x 3.5" wheels are non standard also. The norm would be 21". Not to say the car couldnt have left the dealership with these wheels.
They could have been changed @ the time of the rear axle change. The car has been thru a lot of different hands in 95 years.

I would change to the correct rear end. The large drums have functional rear brake shoes as well as being Correct for your T.
If you like the wheels keep them. Be aware that the 21"(low pressure balloon tires) make for a softer, adjustable ride.

As an aside, In fact, if mine, I would put a set of correct wire wheels. I like the sturdier aspect of wires.

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:31 am

Yes, it's a '26, but it has the earlier rear axle.

Much like my '25/'26 overlap as it's referred to. Classic example that nothing went to waste at FoMoCo. No doubt they used up all the '25 bodies when the '26 bodies rolled off the line. I for one like the '25 chassis under mine as I prefer the old heavier backing plate. I think the "improved" ones aren't that improved. They're flimsy in my estimation. And I don't need the larger drum anyway as mine has RM's also. Just sayin!

I was thinking it might be a “overlap 25-26 car” like my 24 Coupe is. It’s a late calendar year 24 that looks like a 25. They look alike anyway but the details are the difference.

And Ford didn’t waste anything if he could help it. That’s one of the reasons the overlapping year T’s are sometimes not easy to identify by the year.

Your 26 could very well be original as it is.

Here is the serial # stpes on the frame rail. I will have to write down the engine number again.

An over fourteen million serial number makes it a very late 1926! September 1926 many people would consider to be a 1927 model! So not likely a crossover oddity.
Given the serial number on the frame, it most likely would be a proper 1926 frame. However, you should confirm many 1926 details. Correct frame and cross members, proper (lower) front spindles, fender mountings. Make sure of what you have there. Most likely, at some point in the past 95 years the rear end got changed for some reason.
Does the car have the proper "improved" engine and transmission?
And make sure you have appropriate brake rods! The 1926/'27 brake rods are too short for the earlier rear end! Without checking? No telling what someone may have done?

It looks like a nice model T! Almost anything done improperly can be corrected without too much trouble.