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Well, with the wife's 26 touring coming close to being on the road, it's time to get back on the TT. I was sold this truck as a 27, unfortunately the title never appeared, but that's another story. Anyway, the block stamp is a 23, the frame stamp is a 26. The transmission is a 26/27, wide brake drum and the two mounts on the top corners with brackets to each frame rail. But along with the 23 stamp on the block it has a steel firewall with all the holes for the coil box, coil box is mounted on the head 26/27 style.

I'm thinking maybe a 26 chassis and transmission with a replaced cab and engine?

So they still used a firewall with holes, just didn't use the holes. That would make sense then that just the block/engine was changed at some time.

1926 TT: High firewall, empty holes, coil box on engine.

Keith Daniels wrote: ↑

Sun May 07, 2023 10:29 pm

Well, with the wife's 26 touring coming close to being on the road, it's time to get back on the TT. I was sold this truck as a 27, unfortunately the title never appeared, but that's another story. Anyway, the block stamp is a 23, the frame stamp is a 26. The transmission is a 26/27, wide brake drum and the two mounts on the top corners with brackets to each frame rail. But along with the 23 stamp on the block it has a steel firewall with all the holes for the coil box, coil box is mounted on the head 26/27 style.

I'm thinking maybe a 26 chassis and transmission with a replaced cab and engine?

WHY change anything? Looks great as it is.
As is stated in the Model T encyclopedia "The engine number was also the serial number of the car. Engines were numbered when they were completed, and for the most part went into a chassis within a day or so. However, some engines were assembled and numbered at branch assembly plants. Highland Park would ship a block of engine-number records to an assembly plant and these engines might be made weeks or months afterwards. Consequently, engine numbers can only be used to date the "engine" NOT the car."

Also there have been several engine replacements with earlier engine blocks because of claimed failures of 26 engine. Title it as a '26 with the 1926 frame stamp. The Ohio DMV doesn't care or all the can do is to see if the VIN number exists and that it matches the Make, Model & Year on record against a World Wide database of VIN numbers - not just Ohio's. If they say its for a '27 just say "what did I say, '26 - I ment '27

If it doesn't exist they will record what you say is the Make, Model & Year against the VIN (engine number) you provide.

This link to the NMVTIS database provides for a check on VIN numbers in every US state except for Kansas & Hawaii https://www.titlecheck.us/faqs.html wow..they want for $9.98 for the check which doesn't included ownership info. I tried some free sites and they audited for the new alhpa-numeric 17 position format even though older Titled cars don't match that
If you have trouble send me an email. I just found the link and will be trying to see what my 1919 Ford "Roadster"says = Speedster with '25 high firewall, '26 hood, spinals, engine, transmission and large drum rear axle

That does look like it Steve, so cab is likely original, just the motor replaced, thanks.

TRD not planning on changing anything, and when it finally comes title time, I figure on showing them the frame number anyway, much easier to see then the one on the block!

Already pulled that stunt on her touring. Let's just say the notary might not have done the title exactly right (out of state) for example. When questioned I just said, I wondered about that when she did it, and it went right through.

Keith,
The 26-27 TT has most of the pre 1926 TT features, same cab, same fenders, same hood and radiator shell, etc. The few 26-27 features that are noticeable without having to look too hard are the oval ignition switch, longer boot scraper running boards, and the 26-27 improved T engine. The firewall has holes for a coil box because the 26-27 TT has a firewall mounted coil box, just like the earlier TT's and T's. I would recommend retrofitting a 26-27 engine someday because it is better than the earlier engines and transmissions. Good luck with your project.