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Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Jem » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:41 am

I joined when Gus Stangeland was webmaster. Was he the first? I can't remember the year (always had a rotten memory) and I shredded all the old records that might have told when I first had the internet. Pretty sure it was when I had my Dell PC, which had a steel case that would have done credit to a Snap On tool cabinet, cost me £2000 and had less memory than the £40 fitness tracker currently on my wrist. Pretty sure it was before 2000.

Ralph Ricks (RIP) was probably the most prolific poster, I think Michael Pawalek and Stab Howe were around. Frank Harris? Terry Horlick? Terry and I had a minor fight over the screws holding my wheel rims to the felloes; it's alright Terry, I have forgiven you.

I also remember several server crashes, including one which wiped the archive, and there was the big online fight which lead to the MTFCA Board closing it all down and very nearly refusing to allow it to restart. I think it was said that none of them had used the Forum, or even knew it existed.

There's a lot of people out there I think of as good friends, but who I have never met, and am unlikely to.

Forget all this nostalgia - onward & upward!

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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by DLodge » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:33 am

Jem, you and I may have joined around the same time, since I also started when Gus was webmaster. Yes, I believe Gus was the first and also the originator of the MTFCA online forum. You and I messaged back and forth on the forum from time to time and finally met in person at the Ford Centennial in Dearborn in 2003. I remember that we were within a hundred yards of each other near the Ford headquarters building and talking on our cell phones to locate each other. There was some delay in the conversation because it was a transatlantic call...

Remember this sign in front of the headquarters?

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I also remember many of the people you mentioned, as well as the occasional "food fights" that led to the forum's being closed for a bit.


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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by MWalker » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:40 am

I came along a little later, about 2001.


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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by hpetrino » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:57 am

I trailered my TT home sometime in mid-2001. I almost immediately found the Forum and started posting questions as I dove into the project. I do remember all the posters you mention and some of the discussions that went on back then. Yes, many friends I've never met and not likely to.

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Post by Jem » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:08 am

Yes Dick, that was a very memorable trip for me, you've awakened a couple of redundant synapses. I also met up with Dan Treace and a couple of others: we all considered ourselves Forum regulars by then. Trent Boggess gave me a personal guided tour of all the landmarks of Dearborn, which was brilliant. And on my last day before flying home, I got to take the stick and fly a half-circuit as co-pilot on the Oshkosh-based Ford Trimotor. Great memories.

I don't remember that sign, but the event was fairly chaotic in its organisation: I think it sums it up pretty well

I remember Mike & Henry as regular posters.


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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Joss » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:15 am

Remember the off topic discussions and my trying to organize 50 cars to journey to Detroit mostly on line. Also running out of minutes on my cell phone. Sooo different today.

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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by TonyB » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:29 am

I guess I joined later but I don’t remember the actual date. I know Bruce sent me an email suggesting I join and he set up the profile for me. In those days my computer was in a tin box and the screen a cathode ray tube, very deep and bulky. Later I switched to a laptop and today I mainly use my phone. What a change over the twenty odd years.
I suppose all this was after Gus as the moderator as I remember that Bruce was the only moderator until Chris took over. We should be very grateful to these guys for the volunteer time they donate to the well being of the club.
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by DLodge » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:45 am

TonyB wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:29 am
... We should be very grateful to these guys for the volunteer time they donate to the well being of the club.
So true, Tony, so true. It also never hurts to say so from time to time. :D

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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by KWTownsend » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:17 pm

The Forum opened February 7, 1997.
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I was on the Board of Directors during this era, and unfortunately the Forum was treated as a step-child. It was a real up-hill battle for a long time. There were a couple of really big p*ssing matches and the Forum got shut down. Everyone went over to the MTFCI site, and then something else went awry. After Forum #2 opened, people slowly migrated back and I believe it has been going strong ever since.

I have a huge blue notebook that is my own personal reference book. It has early correspondence and advertising. Later, I printed off pages from the forum. In addition to the names mentioned, I have words of wisdom from other early posters include George Shebley, Reid Welch, Jim Cook, Bill Eads, Dennis, Oberer, Jack Putnam, Bill Bamber, Guy Z., and Stan Hockstra.

When I became a member of the two-piece crank club, I reported the incident on the forum and casually mentioned the fact that the front timing cover got cracked and that I was going to have to find a replacement. A week later I had a surprise package in the mail from Havre, Montana. It was timing gear cover that Marv sent to me. I did not ask for one and he didn't say he would send one. He just sent it because he knew I needed one. What a kind gesture.

Early pages of my personal reference book include snail-mail correspondences from guys like Tom Carnegie, Ted Aschman, even Mel Miller!

I have had the good fortune to meet many people and make some very good friendships because of this forum.

Thank you, Gus. Thank you, Chris. Thank you, MTFCA!


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Post by Moxie26 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:28 pm

We purchased our first computer in September/October of 1997..... I remember Gus and appreciated his help..... Wow, since 1997....making me feel older. Started membership in the Mid '70's, lapsed for a few years, then re-upped after 1979, and now a Life Member.

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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Grady Puryear » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 pm

Like others, my memory has shortened somewhat over the years, I do know that it was at the beginning, but I have been in and out several times since I first began. Over time, there were a very few who shall remain nameless, who seemed to take issue with everything, including my posts, what made it worthwhile was that a few posted that they liked my History Lessons, so I ventured in on occasion. Time has caught up with me, my 80's are behind me, and I cannot do what I did back then, and am keeping my Car for nostalgia more than driving. My family has zero interest in it since it doesn't have AC, Stereo and all the rest. I personally liked the old Forum format, I understood it, and to me, it was easy to use and I could wander about and find old posts that meant a lot to me. I have had to hire a Professional to even get this far on the new Forum, and can only hope that in time I will become as familiar with it as the old - God Bless, Grady Puryear, Fredericksburg, Texas, 1925 Roadster

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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by George Mills » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:11 pm

I was around, a bit of a lurker for a few years...became really paying attention around time of the millenium...the topic list was in tree form only before Bruce (MTFCA) and Tony Cimorelli (MTFCI) got their heads together and had the same software on both sites. Seems like RDR was either fresh off his Great America tour, or getting ready for the Great America tour when I started lurking

As Kieth points out, there was a large migration to this site following Centennial celebration. I've mentioned my thoughts before as to why that happened and have had my hand pressed in a vice...haha. Seems to me (hows that for being neutral and not making a statement :D ) that the MTFCA forum before that was mostly lots of back porch stuff, as off topic as much as on, and lots of content about hustling up and down Rt 5 in California...the MTFCI was 98% nuts n bolts technical.

There were "characters" here, mores than MTFCI (I miss them all :( Anyone else remember Reid Welch?

I'd like to think that because of the centennial, both clubs saw a common mission lay in the future and tried to work together 'closer'...and unfortunately, the forum 'over there' started to dry on the vine for reasons probably associated with migration, and was eventually eliminated.

Guess on reflection, I've been around for around 20 years here? 5 more and I'll be able to get 'historic plates', eh??? :lol:

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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by George House » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:37 pm

I found this Forum in the early Spring of 1998 while serving in the army in Sarajevo. Was it the first Forum, I don’t know but it really saved my sanity....
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by KeithG » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:01 pm

I've been on it since Gus ran it. I don't remember when I first started, but it was probably in the late '90's.
Yes, I remember Reid Welch and Tony Cimorelli, and Ralph Ricks (rip), and many others. I met Terry Horlick at the Annual Meeting in Reno, but forgot what year that was. It was always fun when going on the national tours to see Bruce, Ben Yumori and Ted Aschman, and many others.
I also remember the negative times when the Forum was suspended or had technical difficulties and was down. Talk about withdrawal pains...
My Wife says all I do is sit on the computer and the Forum all day, but that's not really true. I do check it several times a day though.
Long live the Forum!!!

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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Bill Robinson » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:04 pm

My first T (a TT) came along in '97. My son and I looked online for info, but all we could find was phone numbers for Snyder's & Lang's. They were lot's of help. We had no idea what we were doing and they helped a lot. A mighty good guy named Gator Gould from L.A. (Lower Alabama) helped us too. I think I made a pest of myself with 'Ol Gator. Then we found the forum- Maybe 1998. WOW! We found out that our TT was actually a 1919 TT with a 1923 roadster body on it. Didn't matter to us. We had fun in it.

:lol: We painted the TT "Gilsonite black", thanks to posts by Reid Welch. That guy was a HOOT! :roll:


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Post by modelt46 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:18 pm

I am listed as posting since 1999. I probably joined the forum before that. I have been a member of this club since 1965 and other the other club since about 1955. 8-)


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Post by wayne sheldon » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:22 pm

I know that in the beginning, I used a pseudonym. My family was convinced that the internet was going to become an evil place (maybe they were right?). Anyway, to please them, I used some "name" that I do not remember anymore. I do remember the big crash that wiped out a week or two postings. I remember it well because there was a question about 1916 center-door sedans. Since I had had one only a couple years before, I wrote the longest and up till then best posting of my life! Only to have the crash a bit over a day later and it was lost forever. Sometimes, in the moment, inspiration hits, and the right words just flow out in a long stream, never to be duplicated again if lost. I always sort of figured the crash was my fault from that long post (there are a few tales behind that paranoia).
I didn't post often in those days. Too busy earning a living and pushing the kids through high school. Three years later, the kids were going somewhat on their own, we moved to Humboldt County Califunny, and I started using my real name. As the years went on, this place became my home away from home.

Thank you all! Especially Gus S, Bruce, and Chris B.

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Post by ChrisB » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:17 pm

I am working on an article for the Vintage Ford on the history of the forum.

I started helping Bruce in 2010 and took over when he died in 2012.

There are some threads on the old forums about the history which I will use and information posted above.

We are over 1000 users now in 1 week since the 2019 Forum was opened.
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by D.Yoder » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:37 pm

I bought my 24 touring from an add on the forum in 1997

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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Angmar » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:51 pm

I was using the forum back then while working on 2 running T and TT trucks. Got away from it later to work on early V/8's.
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Post by MichaelPawelek » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:22 pm

As Jem Bowkett posted above I joined the forum when it was two months old and everyone was on dial up modems. We only had one landline here in the house and I had to unplug our phone to use the Internet. Downloading pictures posted on this forum would sometimes take minutes to load when service was bad and my desk with computer was in a utility room where the dogs sleep. The phone jack was two rooms over and I had to run a long phone extension cord tacked to the ceilings between the rooms. My how far technology has come! I Bluetooth from my cell phone now from any location. And yes.....What type of oil is used in the Model T, and do I have to add a lead additive to the gasoline were both asked back then!
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Nv Bob » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:39 pm

I was here early on left came back left and now back
Was national member of and on as well


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Post by Aarongriffey » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:45 pm

I was also on the first forum. I think it was 1999, maybe ‘98.
The first forum poster I met at his house was ClearLake Buddy at Clear Lake,Ca. He was a regular.
The other Bud was Kennith Delong in Michigan. He was a regular then too.
I remember a time for some months when almost nobody posted on the MTFCA site, but everybody was on the International site.
There was a guy on the east coast that started a TT club. He had some model T shirts made to cellabrated the car that changed the world.
I remember a guy in Clear Lake Ill. Or Iowa that moved to Texas. He ran a Ford Ranger 4 cylinder pickup off model T coils. We quit hearing from him just after he moved to Texas.

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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Bob Williams » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:47 pm

I joined the forum in 2001. It has been an invaluable asset to the hobby.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:27 pm

I was a late arrival, discovering the forum after I bought a TT project in November of 2007, after a change in my work situation allowed enough time for such things. Bruce was running the show then. When I bought my "1922" touring, it was Bruce who broke the news to me that it was really a 1923. I remember the guys mentioned above who were still on the forum when I arrived, and I recall some who have left us for the worst reason. Among the folks I miss are Bruce, John Berch, and Ralph (always billed as Ricks in Surf City). There was also a guy probably missed by nobody, who fancied himself The Only True Patriot and didn't hesitate to get nasty with anyone who failed to agree with him. I don't know how many people he drove away, but there were some. One night he posted something about shooting people who didn't measure up to his standards, and that did it. It was his last post. I also recall the middle school kid (now a college student) who some people thought wrote too well to really be twelve years old, and must certainly be a middle-aged troll out to make fools of us. He didn't, but some guys did it to themselves. The passing parade has included a lot more positive than negative contributions. I hesitate to name names because I'll leave some out, but I'll do it anyway. I'm always glad to see posts by Grady (one of our treasures), Hap (both well-informed and kind), Dan T. (a photo for every occasion), Stan (Renaissance man), Rich (Mister Art), and so many others who keep me coming back here every day.

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Post by StanHowe » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:41 am

June, 1999. Tony Cerovski showed me how to find it. I've mostly enjoyed it, have read some obituaries that bothered me, made a thousand friends and a few enemies, have some people who think I'm smart and some who think everything I post is BS.
In the twenty years I've rebuilt a couple thousand carburetors, run just about every major collector car auction in montana, bought and sold a dozen model ts, rebuilt a bunch of Ruckstells, started on a speedster several times, found out about chickasha and been to it maybe ten times, been to Bakersfield, wrote a book about model ts and homesteading and the Milwaukee railroad, a couple other books that had nothing to do with model ts, edited several for other people and found out that a lot of people really don't care much about what you know as long as they can tell you you're wrong and it is a waste of time to try to pass anything you've learned along because they are either sleeping through it, are not interested or prepared to tell you you don't know what you're talking about.
So like a lot of people, I seldom post anything anymore, I read it occasionally and make use of the classifieds, keep in touch with a few old forum guys and let it go at that.
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by StanHowe » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:48 am

I hate this new format where you can't reply to a specific post.
Anyway, in Steve's picture, l-r John Steele, me, Mike Walker, can't tell Jack daron, George house.


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Post by StanHowe » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:49 am

June, 1999. Tony Cerovski showed me how to find it. I've mostly enjoyed it, have read some obituaries that bothered me, made a thousand friends and a few enemies, have some people who think I'm smart and some who think everything I post is BS.
In the twenty years I've rebuilt a couple thousand carburetors, run just about every major collector car auction in montana, bought and sold a dozen model ts, rebuilt a bunch of Ruckstells, started on a speedster several times, found out about chickasha and been to it maybe ten times, been to Bakersfield, wrote a book about model ts and homesteading and the Milwaukee railroad, a couple other books that had nothing to do with model ts, edited several for other people and found out that a lot of people really don't care much about what you know as long as they can tell you you're wrong and it is a waste of time to try to pass anything you've learned along because they are either sleeping through it, are not interested or prepared to tell you you don't know what you're talking about.
So like a lot of people, I seldom post anything anymore, I read it occasionally and make use of the classifieds, keep in touch with a few old forum guys and let it go at that.
I bought a 27 coupe last fall, hope to get it running and driving in the spring. Got my first t in 1954, had one most of the time since.

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Post by varmint » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:59 am

No, was not. Got a computer in 1982 and it took 34 years to find this place. I have seen a lot of forums & websites come and go in that time. So, this is a testament to the usefulness of the MTFCA and its members. Finally a thanks to the members here that make this place more valuable than sitting in front of an actual Model T.
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Bill Schubert » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:47 am

I have been a lurker since '99 and pretty much still am. This has been part of my morning ritual and have benefited from the wisdom and experience of many contributors. Watched the "lively" discussion that seemed to peak as cabin fever took hold each year, with members vowing to leave and never come back. NEVER is a very long time. Thanks for the memories and the wealth of knowledge so freely shared. Bill Schubert


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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by MichaelPawelek » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:19 am

StanHowe wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:48 am
I hate this new format where you can't reply to a specific post.
Anyway, in Steve's picture, l-r John Steele, me, Mike Walker, can't tell Jack daron, George house.
Stan, When you read someone’s post there will be a set of quotation marks in a box to the upper right. Click on the quotes and a page will load with the other persons post and you can write under their post like I am doing now.....

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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by dykker5502 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:38 am

I have been "playing" with model T's since the 1970's where I learned how to drive it in the red pick-up I later got my self :-), but in 2007 I bought the 1922 Fordor. One winter it was stored in a friends basement garage with Central heating, and if my wheels where not with loose spokes before, it was after that winter.
I Googled "loose spokes" and found several hits from the Forum. One in particular catched my eye. After several "good" advices with all sorts of 2-component chemicals someone chimed in "Why don't you just do as they did back then? Drive it down the creek!" :-)
In 2010 I managed to meet several of the forumers at the Chickasha Swapmeet and now again this autumn in Hershey.
I've learned a lot about model T here and it is a treasure chest of knowledge.
And like most "veterans" here, the Model T have increased in numbers. The red Pick-up where I learned to drive Model T is now mine.
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by MWalker » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:42 am

StanHowe wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:48 am
I hate this new format where you can't reply to a specific post.
Anyway, in Steve's picture, l-r John Steele, me, Mike Walker, can't tell Jack daron, George house.
Stan -- The "can't tell" guy is Dan Conder.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:48 am

And for anybody who may not know, the guy in the other photo is Bruce McCalley.
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by tdump » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:51 am

I think I got there about 02, in a quick search I found a post from 2003
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Will_Vanderburg » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:42 am

I started asking questions about my car when I was in the process of acquiring it or working on it, and that was in 1996 or 1997
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Post by Hal » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:29 pm

I'm pretty sure I registered for the first time in 2003 give or take. I was not real active at that point, as I had just gotten done restoring my Model A. I wanted a T, but couldn't afford one, so I didn't frequent the T forum very regularly. I think I ended up re-registering in probably 2006 or so. I don't know. The whole thing crashed in 2012, it seems like, and everyone ended up with the same registration date. And again this year.

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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by JH1427 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:13 pm

I've got saved emails from June of 98', back in the day of dial up. Has when I first started a 486DX compac that was ok, the problem was after work (5 o'clock) I would try and log on to check the form and e-mail, and all the High School kids would be on there and it may take 20-30 minutes to make a connection. Later when my external moden took a spike and would no longer automatically reconnect when it got a busy signal I had to manually flip the on/off switch, it could then as I was not as fast as before take close to an hour to connect. In 1999 got a refurbished IBM that had a 56K internal modem and thought wow! A year later got DSL, the 6th person in town to get it(working for the phone co I was able to understand how much faster it would be), it was like going from Model T speeds to rocket ship. A picture on dial up that would take 35/40 seconds now took 3/4 seconds.
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One of the things I do remember was when the change to the new format came about and you could no longer receive e-mail notifications of new posts, along with the icon that showed there was a picture posted. All of the most popular posts had pictures...
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Mark Gregush » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:36 pm

Sometime around the turn of the century. Remembering how it was set up back then, someone would comment, man some of those threads got really long just on that one comment. There are people I miss and some I don't. I was on the outer edge of the hobby back then and learning a lot.
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Post by George N Lake Ozark » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:10 pm

I discovered the Forum and started posting about '98/'99. Since that time have met a number of posters at various swaps and such. I remember some of the arguments too. My dad would occasionally post and get in trouble for typing everything in caps like he was yelling. He had net tv at the time and couldn't see anything on it across the room.

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Post by david_dewey » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:26 pm

I think I must have started about 1997, these postings have brought back a lot of memories. I had forgotten about the crashes, and the changes back and forth between the clubs. I also remember trying to get the Rosenthal award for Gus and how many of us were pretty upset the wasn't even considered.
OK, anyone here remember "T- Monk" who would offer to take the "object of your affliction" off your hands--just for your salvation!! ? Terry Horlick and I had lots of fun "here" back then.Hmm, still do have lots of fun here.
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by VowellArt » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:51 pm

Don't remember when I started, 09 I think, it was after I was forced into retirement by the economic problems of 08, that's sure, because that was when my wife told me to start on the Model T again. She was tired of dragging it around and using it as basically an extra storage bin in the garage...so I did. I lurked on here for quite a while, before posting anything, enjoying the posts by Ralph Ricks, especially when he used to get into it with Royce. learned a lot here also, but also realized there was a hole in fabric that is Model T

I asked questions I think, but never really posted anything until I drew my L-4 carburetor out of boredom. It was a really simple assembly and since I had it apart (because I was rebuilding it), I looked at and told myself "I can draw this", at that time I thought I'd make these drawings for my own use, for ordering parts, that's why both Lang's and Snyder's part numbers are on the first few. But later put Lang's numbers on them exclusively because theirs are the closest to the Ford Vendor Numbers and also Don Lang called me and wanted to use my drawings in his catalog. Then Hap Tucker asked me If I'd be interested in drawing the entire Model T Ford and offered me the set of Bruce's works, thinking my drawings could add to what Bruce had started. So I started using Bruce's works to compose my drawings from, using his part number sheets to identify parts and then it hit me, that every one of my drawings needed to be both in vendor numbers and Ford factory numbers with change dates. I made a couple of Carburetor drawings with them, mainly because somebody asked me to (Steve Jelf, I think). But have since gone and made two versions of my drawings...one with vendor numbers that I post here and one with Ford Factory numbers with change dates for book publication, that will be for purchase. Because I need to fund the next phase of my project and the software for that is expensive.

My drawing project of the chassis is drawing near to the close, I've got a few assemblies (about 50 or so) left though and some clean ups here and there too...at the moment though I'm working on the TT rear axle, the generator (which is proving to be a bigger bear to draw than the bloody starter was) and the fan assembly. But there still more to go and as you know, fun never quits! ;)
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by festanley » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:05 pm

Gus Stangeland was the fellow that started the Model T Forum. I was another one of the early forum members probably around 1997. We have seen a lot of folks come and go over the years and the shared knowledge and camaraderie has been great. :D

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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Jay In Northern Ca. » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:31 pm

I was a lurker in the very early days.

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Post by John Warren » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:53 pm

I was able to make the change ok and I helped Danny Lorenzi get going. I hope all can make it. Many are intimidated by the change. It is hard to navigate unless you clear your computers history upper right corner. It will keep taking you back to the old forum.
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Erik Barrett » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:53 am

I joined up in 1999 or 2000 I think. Lurked a short while before that. Has it been that long? I have met many people who are friends here and done some business with them. Many I have had the pleasure of meeting in person at Chickasha, Bakersfield, and National T club tours. This forum is a tremendous resource for enthusiasts, especially those who are beginners having acquired their first model T. I live to help these kind of folks and spread the love for these cars to a new generation of drivers. I have also seen things get ugly here. Those who have been here long enough remember things like the hurc98/Reid Welch pissing match. Too bad, both had things to offer. More recently, individuals who are artisans in a narrow field of work important to antique cars could not play well together online. We all lost the opportunity to learn from them as a result. We have all come together here because of our love for model T's. Let's concentrate on that.
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by BRENT in 10-uh-C » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:25 pm

kwtownsend wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:17 pm
The Forum opened February 7, 1997.

In addition to the names mentioned, I have words of wisdom from other early posters include George Shebley, Reid Welch, Jim Cook, Bill Eads, Dennis, Oberer, Jack Putnam, Bill Bamber, Guy Z., and Stan Hockstra.

I too have lurked since the early years of Gus, and actually met Ralph & John, along with their mechanic Reed when we all did the GreatRace in '97 or '98. They used my rig to work out of each evening, and many forum posters came out along the route to assist with maintenance each evening.

One name of an early poster I didn't see mentioned was "Herk' who was apparently a fictitious poster who always had a way to add humor to the conversations. Anyone remember Herk (-or maybe it was Herc??)


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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Erik Barrett » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:37 pm

It was hurc98 I believe. I know him personally. Interesting guy and fun to hang out with. Done a lot of T stuff, retired these days.


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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by KeithG » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:36 pm

I remember Hurc also and his hillbilly like posts. For quite awhile his true identity was a mystery but it finally came out. I've now forgotten who he is or was... Can anyone re-fresh my memory on who he was?
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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Distagon2 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:06 pm

I was fairly active in the late 90's, and remember telling Michael Pawelek how to adjust the clutch in his new Model T. My how time flies....

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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Jem » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:53 am

Wow, I asked an innocent question and unleashed a flood of memories. Great thing about the old car hobby is, it breeds some eccentric, innovative, skilled & generally interesting people.


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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by Distagon2 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:29 am

This post got me recollecting some fond memories of 20 years or so past. I met some fine folks on this forum. Marvin in Havre, MT was one of the good guys who seemed to come up with just about any 26-27 part. There were times the forum got bogged down in politics and such but for the most part I found folks on this forum to be a great, helpful bunch. I kind of got away from forums and busy with life, traveling around the world in business. Still have my Model T and will until I die. I expect to be a more frequent visitor now, as my attention has turned to re-restoring my 26 Coupe and solving its magneto issue. And....trying to find the original early 26 closed car upholstery with the green stripe like Bill Hirsch used to sell. Cheers! Greg Jones in South Carolina


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Re: Anyone on here who was on the first Forum?

Post by J1MGOLDEN » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:45 pm

I frequently met Bruce McCalley at Hershey, tours and a few other places.

I do believe he set the website up and was the webmaster for many years.

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