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Hi all,
I have a 26-27 Touring body on, I think, a 21 chassis. The pedals are evenly spaced apart. The floorboards for the later transmission don't fit these pedals. Has anybody had this experience? Do I need to make custom fit floorboards to fit the even spacing pedal slots? Anybody have any measurements for the 26-27 Touring with a '21 transmission? I may have to do a cut and paste with cardboard. Thanks.
John

You have a few options.
1. change pedals to 26/27 wide style ( will require removing, hogs head and finding a low pedal and brake pedal in 26/27 style)
2. Change entire hogs head to 26/27 style. (Still requires removing hogshead)
3. Make a set of floor boards that fit the narrow spacing. (easiest fix, but you will need to find the floor board metal notch trim and draft deflector)

dobro1956 wrote: ↑

Fri May 19, 2023 10:18 am

You have a few options.
1. change pedals to 26/27 wide style ( will require removing, hogs head and finding a low pedal and brake pedal in 26/27 style)
2. Change entire hogs head to 26/27 style. (Still requires removing hogshead)
3. Make a set of floor boards that fit the narrow spacing. (easiest fix, but you will need to find the floor board metal notch trim and draft deflector)

#2 will not work. You can not put a late HH over an early Drum set. The brake pedal/band will not be centered over the brake drum.

#1 is good & will keep the pedals correct to the body. Best fix IMHO.

Contact Snyder's Auto parts or Lang's Auto parts for how they can help. I'm sure this question has come up prior years. Good luck

I'm not a fan of #1 for the following. The late brake pedal is made to fit into a hole in the hogs head which is further rearward to remain centered over the wider brake band. Simply transplanting that pedal into an earlier hogs head will move the pedal forward of it's previous position changing the geometry and throw. I know it's been done, but not all changes are good or well designed.

Myself, I only see a new set of floorboards as an option and if you wish to have the '26-27 look", buy a set of pedal extenders and be done with it.

NY John T wrote: ↑

Fri May 19, 2023 9:55 am

Hi all,
I have a 26-27 Touring body on, I think, a 21 chassis. The pedals are evenly spaced apart. The floorboards for the later transmission don't fit these pedals. Has anybody had this experience? Do I need to make custom fit floorboards to fit the even spacing pedal slots? Anybody have any measurements for the 26-27 Touring with a '21 transmission? I may have to do a cut and paste with cardboard. Thanks.
John

Changing pedals lots of work.
Since you know that the later transmission floorboards don't fit your pedals can it be assumed that you have set of '26/'27 floor boards to work with?
The '26/'27 low speed and brake have a larger offset section to space them further apart but reverse stays the same as. <good news!
I would first try to make a custom set using '26 board & purchase the Pedal trim set ( Item Number : 3625AS Year : 1919-1925_) to use as a guide for pedal spacing. Cut the cardboard the same as the upper position of the floor board and just cut out the slot for the brake pedal. The use the trim set as a guide for the other two slots & cut them out. Cut the cardboard across the pedal section using the the trim set. Check for pedal travel.
Good luck

I stand corrected. I was not aware of the band centering problem. Just never noticed it before. I have switched out pedals before. They do need to be heated, re-bent, and fit to the slot for correct travel. But I have never had a car or engine the pedals were " a good fit" in the slots. I have always had to re-fit them for good travel. I think years of heavy use has bent most pedals.

Thanks so much for the suggestions folks. I think I'll work with cardboard to get a layout, and see if I can cut the (26-27) floorboards to fit, or I might have to build custom boards. I don't want to take apart the hogshead or replace the pedals. Thanks again.
John

John

Donnie Brown brought up a good point which I had overlooked, in that the pedals may well need rebending back to their original configuration both side to side and fore/aft.

Be sure to do this before cutting wood. I'd suggest your buying the pedal slot/covers that clinch to the wood before you do anything, and bend things so that they will line up with the metal slots. Then you're set to commit to cutting up your new floorboards

Finally, notice that the low pedal moves "right" when depressed (so should be at rest on the left side of the slot) and reverse and brake move "left" when depressed, so they should be at rest on the right side of the slot. Failure to understand this in the beginning will lead to lots of extra work and frustration and maybe even stuck pedals...no one wants that