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Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:39 am
by varmint
So, I purchased some parts from the vendors for the day timer with a bushing.
I greased the felt to help stop leaking?
The pin would not go into camshaft hole unless I screwed down the nut some.
When I turned the hand crank, things started looking bad.
Is the felt the wrong size?
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Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:42 am
by Kerry
Your cam nut is fitted with a modern seal, forget about the felt and the disc.

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:51 am
by George House
I agree…..

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:01 am
by Scott_Conger
Hopefully the modern seal is not crushed or otherwise distorted now

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:06 am
by John kuehn
You mentioned in your first post that the felt was installed to help stop leaking. Was it leaking? If it was leaking the seal needs replacing.
Since you have a modern seal installed it takes the place of the felt and felt cover.

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:13 am
by Steve Jelf
Yes, ditch the felt and disk. If the seal is leaking, replace it with a new one installed with Ultra Black or other good sealant behind it. It won't hurt to put a little grease on the shaft to help the new seal slide into place.

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:46 am
by varmint
...leaking in general.

This is a new seal and I obviously don't know what I'm doing. Felt removed.
Thanks guys.
Vern

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:50 am
by Scott_Conger
It's how you learn, Vernon

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:01 am
by Moxie26
If it doesn't leak, you've just ran out of oil

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:15 am
by TRDxB2
The difference between knowledge & wisdom.
knowledge acts, information, and skills acquired by a person through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject.
--
wisdom the soundness of an action or decision with regard to the application of experience, knowledge, and good judgment.
In other words, having the additional knowledge of what not to do

You are a bit wiser now

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:16 am
by varmint
Thanks for replies.

Yes, it ran out of oil. Hope to put some in there this year... for the first time.

I will continue to role play and dispense lack of wisdom on here so that your great knowledge application can be recorded for future generations.

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:27 pm
by Jerry VanOoteghem
Vern,

Check your oil every time you get gas. (Gasoline, that is! :roll: )

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:51 pm
by John kuehn
Hey Varmint!
This is how we learn about the old ‘100 year old technology’ cars. T’s were meant to have maintenance checks pretty often more than we are use to with our newer cars. People didn’t drive as far or long as we do now.
We all learn things about T’s from time to time. A 100 mile trip in a T can be compared to a 500-1000 mile trip today. Good luck with your T and have fun driving it! Checking the oil and routine cleaning of the timer people got use to doing since it was something that Ford recommended be done.

As far as leaking goes Fords new T’s in showrooms had pans or sheets of material to catch occasional oil drips. It’s just the way they were.

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:03 pm
by TWrenn
Just remember..."old age and treachery shall overcome youth and skill"! :lol:

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:06 pm
by varmint
We are talking about timers and oil, however...
Our "New Day Timer" says "no oiling".
I'm assuming that is still true by today's standards.

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Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:16 pm
by TWrenn
YES! Oil is a carbon brushes worst enemy. Just keep it clean..I still love and prefer my TW timers but they too need cleaned every oil change. No big deal to do it and I've never had a car run so smooth.

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:02 pm
by John kuehn
Just another maintenance item. The original roller timers were good but eventually made a mess after a while because of the oiling maintenance that came with them. They had an oil access cap on them. Over time if you didn’t clean up the area it got pretty grimy and dirty.

The New Day was an improvement in that area because it didn’t need excessive routine oiling and only a little cleaning like yours. Now days WD40 will clean them up pretty well or using fine sandpaper to lightly and evenly sand them. Steve Jelf has a forum post how to clean one up if it needs more attention than yours.

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:03 pm
by varmint
Jerry,
I have no idea how it got so clean. Just handed to the wife and that's the way I got it back, with screws in place. She threw away the old steel ones.
Vern

Re: Timer... "Ain't Nobody Got Time for That."

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:01 pm
by John kuehn
I’ll bet she may have used an S O S pad. With the soap that’s in them and the fine steel wool they make a great cleaning and polishing pad.