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New Problem

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 5:00 pm
by Oldav8tor
OK guys, need your help again. I'm trying to get my 1917 Model T back together but I keep running into little roadblocks. Since this is all new to me, such problems tend to halt forward progress until I find a solution.

Today I was installing the new bearing cups (races?) in my front wheels - I have wood spoked 30 x 3.5 demountables with roller bearings. After driving the OUTER cup out of one wheel, I cleaned up the area where the new cup would go and proceeded to install it. It was a tight fit around the outermost edge of the wheel casting but when I drove the cup in all the way I found I could turn it with my fingers!!! I went ahead and did the other wheel's outer cup and it was a snug fit. BTW - I used a rubber mallet to install the cup, placing the old cup over it for the last few taps.

I put the calipers on a new and old cup and dimensionally they were the same. Is there anything I can do to secure the cup or is the hub scrap?

BTW - for those wondering how I am doing (tractor tried to pull my left foot off back in January) as of today I am out of the orthopedic boot and wearing an ankle brace in my shoe (walking with a cane). I start PT on Friday and hope to get some strength and mobility back. I did take my 1953 Willys Army Jeep for a spin yesterday and found I could still work a clutch.... Hopefully the T is next :D

Re: New Problem

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 5:05 pm
by Ruxstel24
As snug as you say it is...I would knock it back out and put some red loctite on it and put it back in. ;)

Re: New Problem

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 5:11 pm
by DickC
I have solved this problem by the use of a small drift to "strawberry" the inside surface. This usually lifts enough metal to allow one to drive the race into the hub tightly.

Re: New Problem

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:02 pm
by Scott_Conger
Tim

I have sent you an email.

Re: New Problem

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 10:40 pm
by Stephen_heatherly
That's a very common issue for some reason. The strawberry fit will only temporally fix the issue before the raised areas smash back down and it's all loose again. Red loctite may work but, replacing the hub is your best bet.

Stephen

Re: New Problem

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:54 am
by D Stroud
Stephen is correct. The "strawberry" method will not last, unless you use red Loctite or something similar with it. If it's not too loose, red Loctite by it's self will work fine. If you ever want to remove the race, you'll have to heat it to break down the Loctite. Dave

Re: New Problem

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 1:42 am
by Scott C.
You should try green Loctite 638, or 660.

Re: New Problem

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 5:26 pm
by Oldav8tor
After carefully assessing the situation and evaluating the comments on this and other forums, I chose to go with loctite 660 - it's curing right now but I believe it will do the job. Thanks to everyone for your advice, I always appreciate it.