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Selling Snake Oil in a T

Post by Mark Osterman » Mon May 20, 2019 6:08 pm

Came upon this print in a file today.
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Re: Selling Snake Oil in a T

Post by Tim Rogers » Mon May 20, 2019 7:35 pm

He must have done a good job because people are still buying things like Marvel No-Mystery Oil...
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Re: Selling Snake Oil in a T

Post by Mark Osterman » Mon May 20, 2019 9:00 pm

The contents of that bottle was actually added to the radiator shortly after the picture was taken.

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Re: Selling Snake Oil in a T

Post by Ruxstel24 » Mon May 20, 2019 9:26 pm

Mark Osterman wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:00 pm
The contents of that bottle was actually added to the radiator shortly after the picture was taken.
That radiator has about 75% of it's fins MIA....
Doubtful the "snake oil" did the trick. :lol:


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Re: Selling Snake Oil in a T

Post by Adam » Mon May 20, 2019 10:53 pm

The photo itself is “snake oil”!

Not very old!

50 star flags on the radiator...

What body style???


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Re: Selling Snake Oil in a T

Post by Adam » Mon May 20, 2019 11:00 pm

1919 plate

Hayes demountable rims...


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Post by Mark Osterman » Tue May 21, 2019 7:49 am

LOL ... well, that old radiator worked fine. Drove the car for thirty years with it. That’s me in the picture taken in 1983 at the Kutztown Folk Festival. I built the commercial body that featured a folding stage for our traveling medicine show. For more pictures of the car and performances Google Dr. Bumstead’s Celebrated Lenape Liquid Show. :-)

This is what the car looked like when I first built it up from parts in 1979. I added a vintage (non Ford) windshield a little later. I preferred the later running board brackets and demountable wheels but the rest was 1919 vintage. The stage bolted onto the back deck in place of the insert with the tool box shown here.
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Post by Mark Osterman » Tue May 21, 2019 7:56 am

Here is the same car with the windshield and the add on stage assembly folded up for traveling. And opened up for a performance.
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Re: Selling Snake Oil in a T

Post by Rich Eagle » Tue May 21, 2019 8:59 am

The photo is well staged. I concluded that it might be later photography before I read further but had to look close.
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Post by Charlie B in N.J. » Tue May 21, 2019 9:44 am

It's funny with these things but somehow right off the pic didn't look old to me. Can't explain why though.
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Re: Selling Snake Oil in a T

Post by Adam » Tue May 21, 2019 10:49 am

You did do a great job with the photo.

The only things I could pick out was “after 1948” and “home made body on the T”.

Like Charlie says, there is “something” about the photo itself that jumps out as being recent. Is it originally a color photo that was digitally converted to black & white?

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Re: Selling Snake Oil in a T

Post by Steve Jelf » Tue May 21, 2019 11:35 am

I suspect Adam is on the right track with his question. But rather than color film, I suspect panchromatic black & white. Films of the Model T era were orthochromatic (blind to red), which gives a different look. Another modernizing factor would be the overall fuzzy resolution (can you count the stars on the flags or read the printing on the drum?) and the extreme depth of field indicating a small camera. I suspect 35 mm, or maybe even instamatic.

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Post by Mark Osterman » Tue May 21, 2019 3:07 pm

All of those were shot with black and white panchromatic sheet film. That was actually available in 1919 but Steve is right that much of the film in that era was ortho chromatic or not sensitive to red. But actually most people wouldn’t know the difference. The thing about the first image I posted is that is has a very good range of tones and very good focus, not common with the snap shot photography usually seen of model Ts but really common with professional shots made back then.


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Post by Mark Osterman » Tue May 21, 2019 3:10 pm

This image of me in my runabout was taken last year on a 4x5” gelatin dry plate glass negative like the type popular in the model T era.
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Re: Selling Snake Oil in a T

Post by Steve Jelf » Tue May 21, 2019 5:30 pm

I love large format photography with a good lens. When you look at that picture full size notice how the subject is in sharp focus and the background is soft. Lovely.
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