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I just made a "much better than the last one" hogshead video. Hopefully I got it right and this will help someone.

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Click this to see the video:
https://youtu.be/m-ta53he7mI

Dont use a crow bar between the drums & HH.
Especially when its still bolted together.

speedytinc wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:26 pm

Dont use a crow bar between the drums & HH.
Especially when its still bolted together.

How else do you remove one?!?!

You remove ALL the bolts.
Pry up on the HH between the pan & cover.
If the HH is glued together, use a utility knife blade to cut between the crank case & HH. NEVER pry 0r use a puller on drum edges.
Treat them with respect & fragility.
No need to break the drums that have survived 100 years without already being un-serviceable from web cracks.
Carelessness will cost an unnecessary $1000 for new drums.

Which part of the video are you talking about?

speedytinc wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:04 pm

You remove ALL the bolts.
Pry up on the HH between the pan & cover.
If the HH is glued together, use a utility knife blade to cut between the crank case & HH. NEVER pry 0r use a puller on drum edges.
Treat them with respect & fragility.
No need to break the drums that have survived 100 years without already being un-serviceable from web cracks.
Carelessness will cost an unnecessary $1000 for new drums.

I was able to stomach my way thru 3 transmission. Certainly you remember the crowbar prying on the drums. You should know which one(s)
First I laughed, then got angry watching you fumble the disassembly & destroy stuff.
I better not go any further on the subject of your videos.

I dont recall using a crow bar in this video.

The easiest way to break a transmission drum is to drop it three feet onto a concrete floor.

Been there, done that!

You’ve got that right!
It doesn’t have to be 3 feet. Less than that will do it too.

I did that to one that wasn’t the best of shape when I was taking apart a transmission. I was really carful putting it back together with the last good one I had!

Thats the only evidence I have seen in regard to cracked brake drums.
Dropped & cracked.
Drums are rather fragile in that respect.
Reverse drum edges also.

That must be the only way they break. "crowbar"
Hey I made a short for you on youtube. Hope you can appreciate my expertise as you "stomach your way through it". Maybe you'll watch this one? It's 34 seconds long....

https://youtube.com/shorts/2Q8zTx7JvVQ

What do you guys call a crow bar? Often police reports here refer to the bad guys coming equipped, with a crow bar. A crow bar is along, straight, heavy bar with a blunt chisel point on one end and a stout round head on the other. They are invaluable tools when digging post holes in hard ground, and for tamping down rocks around a post being installed. I have my dad's home made one, reputedly made from two TT driveshafts. I am sure the robbers going equipped are toting a pinch bar. This is about 30" long, with a bent claw end like a roofer's hammer and an angled chisel end on the other.

Allan from down under.

Allen, a crowbar in the states is a tool used for prying in the construction trades.

Still fairly confident no crow bars were harmed in the making of the video I posted at the top of this thread.

I suspected that Dennis. Now, what do you call the long bar I described?

Allan from down under.

Post hole digging and tamping bar or something close to that. Depends on who sells them.
Here’s one from Harbour freight tools about 69” long. It’s a discount tool seller.

I have one my Grandfather made from a wagon axle and another from a T drive shaft. I’ve cleaned out lots of post holes on our farm with those two!

I believe that John is referring to an early video where a pry bar is used to break the hogs head loose. While I’m sure many have used this approach, when you place yourself in public as an authority on something you must be sure to demonstrate proper practices. A lot of people use YouTube in lieu of manuals and/or hands on instruction. I’m sure John’s concern, as well as mine, is that people who watch these videos don’t get the wrong idea and somehow cause more damage.

Andy

AndyClary wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:11 pm

I believe that John is referring to an early video where a pry bar is used to break the hogs head loose. While I’m sure many have used this approach, when you place yourself in public as an authority on something you must be sure to demonstrate proper practices. A lot of people use YouTube in lieu of manuals and/or hands on instruction. I’m sure John’s concern, as well as mine, is that people who watch these videos don’t get the wrong idea and somehow cause more damage.

Andy

Well said.

I never called myself and authority - all of you did! Did you watch the video I linked above when I started this thread? No crowbars. I can tell you what though - there will be "more crowbar" in future videos!

AndyClary wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:11 pm

I believe that John is referring to an early video where a pry bar is used to break the hogs head loose. While I’m sure many have used this approach, when you place yourself in public as an authority on something you must be sure to demonstrate proper practices. A lot of people use YouTube in lieu of manuals and/or hands on instruction. I’m sure John’s concern, as well as mine, is that people who watch these videos don’t get the wrong idea and somehow cause more damage.

Andy

How's about you find another place to pimp yourself Tim ?????????????