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1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:21 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Due to the project taking a weird turn - I'm starting a new thread. This was supposed to be a light and head upgrade and - well.... It's turned into "more". If you want to follow along I could use the subscribers and views. Here's today's video and it should give you a small ink-ling about the path we're on now. Tomorrow's video will be even more enlightening (already cued up). Enjoy the show!

https://youtu.be/Hxtl0dlLKXw

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:40 pm
by CudaMan
I watched and left a "like". There's a lot going on in that engine compartment! Distributor, two horns, a top cylinder lubricator, what looks like a modern plastic master cylinder reservoir? Must have disk brakes on the rear. Quite the project!

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:05 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
He estimates he's put 40-50k miles on that car since I did the engine last. Yes - rear discs. "kids and ice cream" was the motivation. Had to be able to stop! I think I'll do a walk-around while it's apart.

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:27 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Here's today's progress on the touring car:
https://youtu.be/ZV_GGqC-RVw
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Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:17 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:51 pm
by 1925 Touring
Looks like a lot of work!
Thank you for the videos!

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:20 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Question for the old timers. Back when I built this engine the first two times I obviously put new rings in it. I can't remember if I got grant or hastings brand. I think I remember getting the one I didn't want due to a backorder. Pretty sure they both came from the same company and one of them was good and the other SUCKED (and I got them).

I'm trying to avoid the same mistake again, was it grant that was the crappy ones? If you're following the project videos you can see just how much oil went past these. It somehow pushed oil out between the gasket and head and gasket and block. You can see the smear path! Are they stamped (haven't gotten that far yet) with a name?

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:52 am
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
No one? Do I need to start a seperate thread for this?

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:18 am
by CudaMan
I have not had to replace rings on my 1924 yet, but the questions/answers on Lang's website regarding rings for aluminum pistons implies that the Hastings rings are believed to be superior, hence their higher price.

https://www.modeltford.com/item/3023AH.040.aspx

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:52 am
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
CudaMan wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:18 am
I have not had to replace rings on my 1924 yet, but the questions/answers on Lang's website regarding rings for aluminum pistons implies that the Hastings rings are believed to be superior, hence their higher price.

https://www.modeltford.com/item/3023AH.040.aspx
I will take your advice on this. Thank you.

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:09 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Happy Sunday - I've been putting out videos on this 1925 Model T touring car for a week or so now, it's still coming along. Currently still showing exactly how to tear one down for an engine rebuild and I GOT MY FIRST HATE MAIL (postings here)! This one is for "Steve King" - who had nothing good to say about what I do, ranted about me ranting! IF you have not seen the previous videos, please check them out, it's all coming out in order. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYWau9MXQNA

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:40 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
TheSpeedsterProject wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:09 pm
Happy Sunday - I've been putting out videos on this 1925 Model T touring car for a week or so now, it's still coming along. Currently still showing exactly how to tear one down for an engine rebuild and I GOT MY FIRST HATE MAIL! This one is for "Steve King" - who had nothing good to say about what I do, ranted about me ranting! IF you have not seen the previous videos, please check them out, it's all coming out in order. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYWau9MXQNA

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:50 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Here's today's video on the 1925 Model T Touring car: https://youtu.be/KoXiWhWg55Y

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:16 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:52 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:28 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
So here's today's video https://youtu.be/jcnW1QDbeKw

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:08 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Keep watching - can't find the parts we need so get ready "SHIFT"! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK39TZCKMkY

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:43 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
I just found out that ep 8 was never released.... Not sure how I managed that one but - here it is: https://youtu.be/VKuOTy3cHSw

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:05 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Episode 15 is now out. Skip back to Ep8 as well - I forgot to release that until I noticed yesterday!
https://youtu.be/lOBoudTRwA0

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:16 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:40 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Day 17 - it's just parts coming in so if you aren't into that....
https://youtu.be/5YQrnRgJ8NI

Rings show and tell and questions coming out tomorrow.

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:22 pm
by 1925 Touring
Thank you for all of the work in putting all these videos for all of is to see!

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:51 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:42 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Are you keeping up with the series? https://youtu.be/k81GToH75hE

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:53 pm
by Jerry VanOoteghem
You state early in your video that the rings you're removing had "5 minutes total run time", then later state that they got progressively worse over 15 years. Which is it?

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:01 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
We've been talking about two seperate engines. I can clarify that in an upcoming video if I didn't explain it clearly. "we opted not to wait 11 months for the original block to be bored". I thought I said it, maybe that part got edited out.....?

Please throw your comments under the video on youtube so I know what you're referencing.

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:29 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:07 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Do me a favor and leave a comment or a like on this if you think it was helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:26 pm
by Racer_22
The bands in question were from the late Sheldon Lowenthal in Cleveland Ohio who was the custom friction company. He helped our hobby tremendously with his engineering skills. He was a pioneer in Kevlar cone clutches and later model t bands. You sent your bands to him and he riveted new linings on. They were quick to engage and chattered when stopping. His first generation compressed Kevlar was bonded to woven nylon backing material. It melted at about 400 degrees and caused catastrophic engine failures. Later he used cotton backing like a Scout belt that he bonded the Kevlar to. Later he obtained material from England that was woven Kevlar we use today. Now you know the story. One more comment, why would you keep the bands out of an individuals car and save for your stash.

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:21 am
by Jerry VanOoteghem
TheSpeedsterProject wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:07 pm
Do me a favor and leave a comment or a like on this if you think it was helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g
Your latest video, on how to ruin Kevlar linings, has the comments turned off.

Whatever..... :roll:

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:12 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
If you are talking about this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g

I have no idea what you're talking about - others are leaving comments there no problem.

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:21 am
TheSpeedsterProject wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:07 pm
Do me a favor and leave a comment or a like on this if you think it was helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g
Your latest video, on how to ruin Kevlar linings, has the comments turned off.

Whatever..... :roll:

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:17 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Racer_22 wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:26 pm
The bands in question were from the late Sheldon Lowenthal in Cleveland Ohio who was the custom friction company. He helped our hobby tremendously with his engineering skills. He was a pioneer in Kevlar cone clutches and later model t bands. You sent your bands to him and he riveted new linings on. They were quick to engage and chattered when stopping. His first generation compressed Kevlar was bonded to woven nylon backing material. It melted at about 400 degrees and caused catastrophic engine failures. Later he used cotton backing like a Scout belt that he bonded the Kevlar to. Later he obtained material from England that was woven Kevlar we use today. Now you know the story. One more comment, why would you keep the bands out of an individuals car and save for your stash.
Very interesting information!
Customer told me specifically to keep the parts we replace, those were too good to toss but worn in a couple spots amd he didn't like that. He wants "everything new" including the bands so I grabbed another set of steels from the pile. No funny business, he's "not mechanical" and doesn't want the leftovers. He doesn't even change his own oil, brings the car back here every spring for it. If he asks for them, they are still here to take.

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:59 pm
by Jerry VanOoteghem
TheSpeedsterProject wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:12 pm
If you are talking about this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g

I have no idea what you're talking about - others are leaving comments there no problem.

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:21 am
TheSpeedsterProject wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:07 pm
Do me a favor and leave a comment or a like on this if you think it was helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g
Your latest video, on how to ruin Kevlar linings, has the comments turned off.

Whatever..... :roll:
This one... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g&t=816s
bands.png
Apparently, comments are back on again, including mine. Or, maybe you turned comments off on FB?

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 6:12 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
I dont turn the comments off on youtube.com.

Next video: https://youtu.be/GJzMwMJbeFM

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:22 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:10 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:09 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Latest video is out: https://youtu.be/Hz3-nhvfm9c

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:18 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:27 pm
by Racer_22
Perhaps you should check to see how much your piston moves the head with the head studs loose.Measure that distance. Measure how thick your head gasket is.You have not established your pan rail to top of the block measurement. You will probably find the head clears just fine. Maybe youll find your Rod babbitter moved the centerline down several thousands to allow the pistons to pop up higher or possibly you have a bad set of pistons from your supplier. The piston heights vary between manufactures. You will learn this as you become more experienced.

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:01 am
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
First - It's Christmas day and I'm looking for someone on my naughty list (joke) - Next video: https://youtu.be/RNQ2nbOSmBM

Second - Hello Kevin. The Z head hit on all four with the OG setup. Your head hit on two. Loose bolts or tight. Can't explain it beyond "someone decked it many many times". IDK.

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:54 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Going to have an opening here soon if anyone needs work done.

Here's two more video links for the series:

https://youtu.be/CIA_yjSuq7A

https://youtu.be/ZdMQ8HLhZZQ

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:16 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
They ARE deleting subscribers! Evil.... Here's the next video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJpNxpv5uxE

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:26 pm
by Rajo23
Or, perhaps, people are unsubcribing.

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:23 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Or perhaps youtube is deleting them, like this gentleman and at least one other that has commented on there.

Here's the latest video... https://youtu.be/OyVhWKNSxOU

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:42 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Next video - this one is all about the starter, how to install. Hopefully it helps someone! https://youtu.be/Z_tGgA262yE

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:47 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:32 am
by Gen3AntiqueAuto

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:16 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Monday double feature: https://youtu.be/sF09S-HX4DE

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:31 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Project took a turn - bosch front plate time!
https://youtu.be/2UEXmIZJ0wc

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:12 am
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
ok - so this one isnt what the customer wanted. After a month of searching and waiting we found a front plate so this one is "out of here"!
https://youtu.be/LWIpd-ikc_8

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:38 am
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
So youtube has been deleting my subscribers and views - now this - no thumbnail.
Anyway - Bosch Front Plate information here:
https://youtu.be/BH5Dni6mKQc

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:01 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Ran into a snag on the bosch front plate install!

https://youtu.be/WhMediNH1Rs

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:07 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Today's video - the end will shock you.

https://youtu.be/GLXWM-dbeuw

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:09 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto
Latest episode is out! https://youtu.be/cte_sHuJd34

Re: 1925 Touring Car Project

Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 2:23 pm
by Gen3AntiqueAuto