From 2018: When was my engine made?

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From 2018: When was my engine made?

Post by GJScholz » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:19 pm

If someone could teach me how to decode these engine block numbers on my ‘14 Touring, I would be mighty grateful.

B18 41414

P1
P2

Thank you,
Greg

Ps. Any comments on my exhaust manifold? It says KOOLER on it. ??

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message By Steve Tomaso - Longbranch,WA on Saturday, January 05, 2019 - 09:04 pm:
Block was cast on April 14, 1914 - need engine number to determine the day it was cast.

"Kooler" is an accessory water circulator.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message By Dave Hanlon N.E.Ohio on Saturday, January 05, 2019 - 09:07 pm:
http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/sernos.htm

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message By Gregory Scholz on Saturday, January 05, 2019 - 09:42 pm:
Thank you.
I remember now, that kooler is part of that water pump.
I will eventually catch on.

Where on the engine do I look for the serial number?

Thank you,
Greg

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Saturday, January 05, 2019 - 09:47 pm:
A bit backwards it was cast on the date on the block 4-14-14
The stamped number tells when it was made into a motor.

The stamped serial number is above the water outlet on the driver’s side.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Saturday, January 05, 2019 - 09:56 pm:
The "B" and the "18" are mold and/or pattern identification numbers that were used by the factory to trace back to the cause of defective castings. They have served no purpose for more than a hundred years now.
Steve T meant to say "need engine number to determine the day it was" 'assembled'. The day it was cast is the 4 14 14 as he said.

And you get a rare response. Steve T almost never makes a mistake! He knows his stuff. :-)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, January 05, 2019 - 11:32 pm:

As Fred says, the number is stamped above the water inlet. If your car is infested by a water pump the number may be hidden behind it.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message By Dan Treace, North FL on Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 10:09 am:
Water pump infestation.....LOL :-)

Good one Steve!
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Re: From 2018: When was my engine made?

Post by GJScholz » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:20 pm

My engine number is 535883

Thank you,
Greg
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Re: From 2018: When was my engine made?

Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:26 pm

Friday, June 19, 1914.
The inevitable often happens.
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Re: From 2018: When was my engine made?

Post by GJScholz » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:36 pm

Thanks!!

And how do we figure out when was it made into a motor?
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Re: From 2018: When was my engine made?

Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:51 pm

You look it up in Bruce McCalley's Model T Encyclopedia. The best version is on disk. You can also find it on the MTFCA website, but that will only give you the month and year, not the day.

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Re: From 2018: When was my engine made?

Post by CudaMan » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:55 pm

Engine 535883 was one of 660 engines assembled on June 19, 1914. Assembled engines for that day ran from 535401 to 536060. :)
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Re: From 2018: When was my engine made?

Post by GJScholz » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:29 pm

Thank you!
It is amazing that we can get this information, 100 years after the car was built!

Thank you,
Greg
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