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Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:51 pm
by Lyndon
Found, in a wooded area, not too far apart. Had to cut down several bushes and a few trees to get them out. As you can see part of a tree grown into the trailer hitch. Decided to stack one on top of the homemade wagon just to haul them home. A lot of mixed models of parts. The engine # shows to be a 1925. The wagon shows to be a 26 or 27 model. But the front axle is earlier. There showed to have been a grain bed on the wagon at one time. And probably some kind of seed cleaner or dryer mounted on it, because of the blower on it. My main question on the frame on top, is about the logo stamped on the rear cross member. Not sure what this stands for. And no, I am not going to fix either. Just a lot of good parts. There is a good set of wire wheel hubs, and the wheels were converted to 16's.
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:04 pm
by Keith Daniels
What are your thoughts on the chain drive?
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:15 pm
by Lyndon
The shaft is attached to the gear box that was powered by the PTO in front of the trailer. Then the chain attaches to a large blower. That is why I think it is some kind of seed cleaner or dryer. It also had a shoot on it. All the hardware was still there for the bed. But all the wood had rotted away.
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:22 pm
by Keith Daniels
That would explain the U joint at the front, that had me scratching my head too.
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:25 pm
by tdump
Well that top 1 is speedster bones!
Glad they were saved!
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:38 pm
by TXGOAT2
Looks like a Person of Largeness sat on the gas tank....
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:00 pm
by tdump
TXGOAT2 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:38 pm
Looks like a Person of Largeness sat on the gas tank....
Had to be bigger than me then because mine didn't cave in when i sat on it!
Maybe Bigfoot was playing Speed racer out in the woods late at night!
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:05 pm
by John kuehn
That’s a good find. Model T bones are still out there. When they were used up they were pushed off in the woods or out in the back fourty and just forgotten about. If the frames are not mangled they probably are good for parts at least. More than a few T’s have been built up from remains like these.
If the spark plugs are still in the engine it may be a good usable block.
One man’s trash is another man’s treasure as far as old car parts are concerned.
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:16 pm
by Bryant
that’s the logo I found on my 26 frame. Yours is much clearer. Thanks for solving my mystery. Now I wonder what it stands for? Bm Co? MB Co?
Nice treasures!
Bryant
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:06 pm
by Lyndon
I would say, the reason it is so clear to see. It said to not have had a body on it for over 50 years. Which makes it not hold moisture, preventing some of the rust. I would really like to know the meaning. I cannot believe someone out here doesn't know.
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:52 am
by Wayne Sheldon
I remember when google used to try to answer questions. But I got nowhere trying to find the answer I cannot quite remember.
I have seen that logo before, and it has been discussed here in the past, so someone smarter than I should know it.
Somehow, I think the "P" stands for "Parrish" or something similar. I know it was one of the automotive frame manufacturing companies Ford used for many years to provide frames when their inhouse manufacturing ran short on the factory demands and sales.
Although many people think of the model T Ford as a totally inhouse built automobile, it really never was. Throughout the brass era cars, most of the major and minor components were made by outside suppliers (or in the earlier years Ford's own Ford Manufacturing Company). Once the assembly line got really going, Ford began expanding their inhouse manufacturing of major components. But they never made anywhere near all the parts themselves. Production scheduling ebbed and flowed, and shortages of capacity happened often. Around Detroit were many smaller manufacturing specialists ready willing and able to fill their need. That frame is one such frame.
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:33 am
by vping
Trying not to hijack the thread. My wife and I found this in the woods a few years ago while hiking. Any clue to what it is? Sorry if I posted this already.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/HQtgZhJG2An4grJP6
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:51 am
by Bryant
Wayne Sheldon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:52 am
Somehow, I think the "P" stands for "Parrish" or something similar.
So it’s possibly a P? Looks like a B. Maybe a P and R overlap since the bottom is not connected ParRish m Co ? Wow what fun
Bryant
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:00 am
by Bryant
Looks like a small drum era T frame to me. No engine/trans/front axle. Radius rods rigged up to keep it centered with no torque tube. Maybe used as a log skid behind a single mule or something until a wheel busted and was left for dead.
Bryant
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:41 am
by tdump
Wayne Sheldon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:52 am
I remember when google used to try to answer questions. But I got nowhere trying to find the answer I cannot quite remember.
I have seen that logo before, and it has been discussed here in the past, so someone smarter than I should know it.
Somehow, I think the "P" stands for "Parrish" or something similar. I know it was one of the automotive frame manufacturing companies Ford used for many years to provide frames when their inhouse manufacturing ran short on the factory demands and sales.
Although many people think of the model T Ford as a totally inhouse built automobile, it really never was. Throughout the brass era cars, most of the major and minor components were made by outside suppliers (or in the earlier years Ford's own Ford Manufacturing Company). Once the assembly line got really going, Ford began expanding their inhouse manufacturing of major components. But they never made anywhere near all the parts themselves. Production scheduling ebbed and flowed, and shortages of capacity happened often. Around Detroit were many smaller manufacturing specialists ready willing and able to fill their need. That frame is one such frame.
I have a chassis with PB on it and I remember Parrish being said for sure,and I want to say,the B was for "Bareington?" spelling.
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:37 am
by RajoRacer
I believe it was Parrish & Bingham.
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:51 pm
by Lyndon
Re: Conversation Pieces - T Frames
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:27 pm
by Bryant
this is the marking I keep seeing for Parrish and Bingham. Obviously different. Iam assuming they may have changed it at some time? I can’t find an exact match.
Bryant