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Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:01 am
by TFan
Just found out about this but it ends in two days looks like some good deals. Jim
https://www.nuttauction.com/auctions/61 ... ne-auction
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:13 am
by TWrenn
Rough looking '13 and the '15 Runabout isn't much better. Hope the bidder's get 'em for the current price plus that premium adds to it.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:44 am
by signsup
Auction prices always look good until the last 5 minutes. And, yest, buyers premium and shipping costs make buying a pig in a poke vehicle a real gamble. Auctions have turned into a real mine field in the past few years with the auction houses providing no recourse for fraud or mis representation. And FleaBay is not much better. With so many scammers using FB and CL, it is almost turning a complete circle in the vehicle purchasing world with swap meets, buying in person, and paying with cash like we all did before the internet. JMO
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:27 am
by John Codman
There is some good stuff there, but it would be taking a real chance with no real ability to inspect the stuff and having to arrange shipping and pay for it. I'm not that much of a gambler.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:28 am
by RajoRacer
Is that the same "Bob Shirley" who frequented here ???
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:03 pm
by KBurket
https://www.hannerfuneralservice.com/ob ... d=28670760
The Mercury body on a chassis he previously advertised on the forum is included in the auction listing.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21427
There is also a forum entry discussing his 1915 Touring.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/70 ... 1500343492
Rest In Peace Mr Shirley.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:05 pm
by RajoRacer
Thanks for that - I don't recall hearing or reading about his passing !
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:18 pm
by ModelTWoods
RajoRacer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:28 am
Is that the same "Bob Shirley" who frequented here ???
WOW ! STEVE, I'm wondering the same thing ! Did Bob recently pass away and no one here knew about it ? I only know of one Bob Shirley from Atlanta, Texas and it is very near Queen City, Texas. Bob's last post on the forum has been this year. he has bought parts from me. I'll research and post what I find.
I am sad to report that this was our friend, Robert Ray "Bob" Shirley, T Forum contributor and T owner and expert cabinet maker. Bob was born October 3, 1949 and left life in a Texarkana, Texas hospital on August 16, 2023, and we are just now finding out of his demise. No cause of death was found in this search, but his body was cremated and a memorial service was held, last year. R.I. P., Bob, you will be missed by many.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:20 pm
by Rich Eagle
I really enjoy seeing these wonderfully aged cars. The photos are very nice and show what is there.
I'm not picking at them, but just pointing out some interesting items.
The '13 has a '15-'16 hood former in place. I've never seen that done. It would make the hood fit the radiator poorly.
I like the simplicity of the homemade pedal seal.
The hood of the '15 is mounted backwards. I haven't seen that one either.
I hope they do well with the auction and get these great cars to good owners.
Thanks for sharing the info with us.
Rich
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:56 pm
by ModelTWoods
ModelTWoods wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:18 pm
RajoRacer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:28 am
Is that the same "Bob Shirley" who frequented here ???
WOW ! STEVE, I'm wondering the same thing ! Did Bob recently pass away and no one here knew about it ? I only know of one Bob Shirley from Atlanta, Texas and it is very near Queen City, Texas. Bob's last post on the forum has been this year. he has bought parts from me. I'll research and post what I find.
I am sad to report that this was our friend, Robert Ray "Bob" Shirley, T Forum contributor and T owner and expert cabinet maker. Bob was born October 3, 1949 and left life in a Texarkana, Texas hospital on August 16, 2023, and we are just now finding out of his demise. No cause of death was found in this search, but his body was cremated and a memorial service was held, last year. R.I. P., Bob, you will be missed by many.
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Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:10 pm
by ModelTWoods
ModelTWoods wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:56 pm
ModelTWoods wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:18 pm
RajoRacer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:28 am
Is that the same "Bob Shirley" who frequented here ???
WOW ! STEVE, I'm wondering the same thing ! Did Bob recently pass away and no one here knew about it ? I only know of one Bob Shirley from Atlanta, Texas and it is very near Queen City, Texas. He has bought parts from me. I'll research and post what I find.
I am sad to report that this was our friend, Robert Ray "Bob" Shirley, T Forum contributor and T owner and expert cabinet maker. Bob was born October 3, 1949 and left life in a Texarkana, Texas hospital on August 16, 2023, and we are just now finding out of his demise. No cause of death was found in this search, but his body was cremated and a memorial service was held, last year. R.I. P., Bob, you will be missed by many.
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Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:26 pm
by ModelTWoods
TWrenn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:13 am
Rough looking '13 and the '15 Runabout isn't much better. Hope the bidder's get 'em for the current price plus that premium adds to it.
Geez, If you think the 13 touring and the 15 roadster are rough, I wonder what you'd call the 26 touring and the 26 roadster? These were project cars of Bob's; not restored cars. I would love to have all his brass cars plus the coupe and another car, but I have no room for them and I'm 402 miles away, one way trip.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:53 pm
by George House
But Terry; if you won that ‘13 touring you’d have to replace that late crank handle with an aluminum one
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:39 pm
by ThreePedalTapDancer
I didn’t know that Bob Shirley had passed either. What a bummer. Last active on forum:Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:36 pm. He died 6 days later.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:55 pm
by TWrenn
ModelTWoods wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:26 pm
TWrenn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:13 am
Rough looking '13 and the '15 Runabout isn't much better. Hope the bidder's get 'em for the current price plus that premium adds to it.
Geez, If you think the 13 touring and the 15 roadster are rough, I wonder what you'd call the 26 touring and the 26 roadster? These were project cars of Bob's; not restored cars. I would love to have all his brass cars plus the coupe and another car, but I have no room for them and I'm 402 miles away, one way trip.
Just an observation Terry, as I'm partial to the '13s especially. It is sad this fella, whom I've never heard of, passed before progressing in his projects.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:30 pm
by ModelTWoods
Once again, Tim, If you think his brass cars are rough, what do you call his 26 touring and roadster, Parts Cars?
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:34 pm
by ModelTWoods
George House, you've got the storage space. There's so deals to be had in this auction.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:25 pm
by Allan
The 13 tourer hood would fit much better if it was put on the right way around! Like many T's there are bits to improve on. It may even have a late starter motor engine and trans going by the smooth pedals
Allan from down under.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:52 pm
by AndyClary
If I didn’t have a Mercury I would be bidding on this one. It’s rough but the firewall and dashboard look very good, which is unusual. He had been asking 10k, I suspect it should go for 5-6k. That and another 20 grand and you’d have a nice car.
Andy
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:07 pm
by JTT3
Bob was a close friend, i spoke with him at least every week including the day before he passed, He had just been released from the hospital, he had severe chronic copd , he relapsed. Bob was a veteran, a honest and decent person. Bob was private, read a lot, commented some & laughed often. What most of you don’t know about Bob is that he was a machinist, he poured babbitt, rebuilt Model T engines, straightened pans, rebuilt starters , generators and enjoyed our hobby. Most of those things he did free, you helped, you buy the parts. The complete model T’s being critiqued have rebuilt or refurbished engines including titles for most. As with some of us including me, we have multiple vehicles/ projects with parts separated in other areas. You’ll note if you go through the catalog you’ll find parts that go with some of the cars. Unfortunately it happens when things abruptly end. The last day we spoke he asked me to come up so he could show me where the good stuff was and help Shelia when the time came. I believe he knew that time was short but I didn’t. I believed he would get better & I was wrong. Unfortunately I was unable to honor that request because of my health at that time. I fear there will be way too many great deals. Such is life, such is death.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:34 pm
by signsup
I have emailed the auction house several days ago about possible shipping of small items and nothing but crickets chirpping. When they don't responds to questions, I start getting cold feet about service after the sale.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:51 pm
by ModelTWoods
signsup wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:34 pm
I have emailed the auction house several days ago about possible shipping of small items and nothing but crickets chirpping. When they don't responds to questions, I start getting cold feet about service after the sale.
The auction company handling this auction is a local company; not one that I had ever heard of before, and not one that (I dare say) is experienced in handling an auction of antique cars and parts, with the intention of trying to get top dollar for the seller. Yes, the auction company has a website, but how many car people would ever find their website, being a relatively unknown auction company. Like I said in another post, there are going to be some real deals to be had for buyers, at the expense of the sellers, who should have gotten better service.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:45 am
by JTT3
Look at lot 588 & 596. Bob built these and they work great. 588 if you take a close look you’ll know what it is and you won’t spend 2k on it. The centerline & peg holes were off the blueprints. He added that back piece to help in alignment. It works well. No you’re not going to do 500 alignments but you could do 499. I think that’s 2 inch steel but may be slightly less. If you can’t figure out what 596 is you don’t need it. This company has really no idea on antique vehicles or parts. The widow will take the hit.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:50 am
by AndyClary
The auction closed on the cars and they went for pretty much what they were worth although I thought the 13 and 15 touring cars went a little low. The Mercury went for 6550. Jeer Sherman had a body is worse condition at Bakersfield years ago. Since this included a set of wire wheels it was probably in the ballpark.
If anyone here bought the Mercury let me know. I’d be interested in following its restoration.
Andy
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:09 pm
by ModelTWoods
JTT3 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:45 am
Look at lot 588 & 596. Bob built these and they work great. 588 if you take a close look you’ll know what it is and you won’t spend 2k on it. The centerline & peg holes were off the blueprints. He added that back piece to help in alignment. It works well. No you’re not going to do 500 alignments but you could do 499. I think that’s 2 inch steel but may be slightly less. If you can’t figure out what 596 is you don’t need it. This company has really no idea on antique vehicles or parts. The widow will take the hit.
Well said, John, especially the last sentence. It mirrors exactly what I said in my last post before yours.
Re: Texas auction end in two days
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 2:56 pm
by signsup
Don't forget the 10 percent buyers premium. So, if the Merc went for $6500 , then it was $7200 or so. Plus shipping, transport, or gas and lodging to go get it. I'm trying to search for an item that I know was in the 700 lots and it's not showing up and the current lots are all over the place, so I"m not understanding the sequence of lots on this on line auction. They never answered my shipping question, but sent me a reminder email that the auction has started.
