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Has to come out.

Could it be that obvious? Low-speed drum is cracked right across and possibility of water in the oil

Dan would JB WELD WORK? Hehe

Back in the day old timers would just use a little modified bituminous roofing tar.

That's better. But that drum sure isn't.

Just funnin' ya a bit.

Guess I should check closer before I hit submit.

I don't know about JBWeld or tar, but I have a low speed drum taken from a working transmission that has had such a crack brazed up. I guess you do what you have to at the time.

Allan from down under

Allan,
A long time ago, I bought a big box full of model T transmission parts. Most of the parts were pretty good, some really nice pieces. However, also in the box were two drums that had been cracked across that way, and very nicely brazed and finished up. Over the years, I have used most of the pieces from that box. But I think I still have both of those two drums. I have threatened to use them a few times. I still might for some sort of short use spare engine or something? I just have never been able to bring myself to put them into a running engine. Not even a short use spare engine.
Part of me wants to try them. Part of me wants nothing to do with them in an engine, risking a major failure in the wrong time and place.

Dan Hatch wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:40 am

Back in the day old timers would just use a little modified bituminous roofing tar.

I love it. Thanks for that! A forum tradition.

As most know Hugh Jass was a visionary with his use & promotion of modified Bitumen roofing tar. Perhaps the foremost advocate of its use in unexpected areas of model T restoration & maintenance. That was back in the day when we could have a little fun on the forum without getting to many upset. Best John

He was the master of T repair. We need more of his insight on how a T should be repaired.
All the new guys don’t know what they missed.

A basic course in the proper use of haywire is a good starting point. Having acquired a solid grounding in the use of haywire, the student can advance to studies in the uses of friction tape, assorted adhesive substances, shims and their uses, and the proper use of kerosene, oatmeal, and Marvel Mystery Oil.

TXGOAT2 wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:34 am

A basic course in the proper use of haywire is a good starting point. Having acquired a solid grounding in the use of haywire, the student can advance to studies in the uses of friction tape, assorted adhesive substances, shims and their uses, and the proper use of kerosene, oatmeal, and Marvel Mystery Oil.

You just can't find good quality haywire anymore.

JTT3 wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:09 am

As most know Hugh Jass was a visionary with his use & promotion of modified bituminous roofing tar. Perhaps the foremost advocate of its use in unexpected areas of model T restoration & maintenance.

Agree wholeheartedly about Mr. Jass. His knowledge on that material led me to find it the very best sealant to keep those stubborn bubbles from escaping around the spark plugs. Excellent method for this purpose.

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:34 am

Dan Hatch wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:40 am

Back in the day old timers would just use a little modified bituminous roofing tar.

I love it. Thanks for that! A forum tradition.

I like the spelling of it!! Lets take it one step further and spell it "BITCHumen"!! Cause back in the day it was used on a 95 degree day the installers WERE bitching!!

I’ll bet there are some newbies on here trying to figure out who Hugh Jass was and how bituminous roofing tar is used to repair a Model T. You guys make the joke sound convincing. LOL!

And well it should Jim. How could you deny the flexibility & documentation of successful application of Bitumen roofing tar in those tough to fix problems. Personal testimonials confirm that flexibility and the fact that a world renowned Law firm (Duey, Cheatum & Howe) has confirmed those results. Hugh Jass’s reputation alone should repudiate any disparaging remarks of said remarkable use & results. Leaking rear pumpkin, Butimen roofing tar, hole in the block, Butimen roofing tar, leaking spark plug Butimen roofing tar, cracks on the tire or threads showing Butimen roofing, bare wires on your harness yes Butimen roofing tar. Awesome for all those applications and so many more. Keep a can of Butimen roofing tar on the exhaust so it’s ready to use when a problem erupts.

I recommend that you take the transmission out and either rebuild it or put in a different one which is in good condition. I will attach a picture of what happened to one of mine when I had a cracked drum. It locked up and I couldn't even push it in the middle of an intersection. Had to put a floor jack under one rear wheel to winch it up onto a trailer.
Norm

Dave Nolting can solve that problem in no time.

Tell him you want one of those drums that was manufactured by Brian.