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Which band adjustment via outside Hogshead RHD?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:42 pm
by Rata Road
I'm remotely helping a newbie with his TT, It had no Cab so he has made that, made a nice deck and he's got it running but no reverse or low gear band contact.
My cars are rugged up for the winter and I dont want to dig one out, I know the band adjuster locations are different on the right hand drive Hogshead.
Which ones are on the outside please?
Kevin
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Re: Which band adjustment via outside Hogshead RHD?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:53 pm
by Cordes_jeff
Outside band adjustments are opposite of LHD cars. Reverse and brake adjust from the outside.. I could be mistaken
Re: Which band adjustment via outside Hogshead RHD?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:55 pm
by Norman Kling
Reverse and brake are on the outside and low is inside. Just the opposite of the left hand drive.
Norm
Re: Which band adjustment via outside Hogshead RHD?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:00 pm
by Craig Leach
I think that right hand drive are reverse & brake adjustable from the outside?
Craig.
Re: Which band adjustment via outside Hogshead RHD?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:00 pm
by Wayne Sheldon
Only us " "Mericans " answering? Most of us including me (sic) have never actually worked on a right hand driven model T.
But yes, as the others have said.
Re: Which band adjustment via outside Hogshead RHD?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:12 pm
by Rata Road
Thanks Guys
I thought Alan would have been in here lol
Re: Which band adjustment via outside Hogshead RHD?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:30 pm
by Rata Road
He has just sent me some pics,
Doesn't look right to me, no shaft going through Brake band spring?
Its a 1925, looks later wider brake.
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Re: Which band adjustment via outside Hogshead RHD?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:46 pm
by Allan
It does look like a wide brake band so it must have a 26-7 hogshead. Note the wider spacing between the brake and first gear pedal.It would also need a four dip pan to clear the wide band. Later pedal shafts are often this short variety. Personally, the full length ones which enter the adjusting screw I feel are more satisfactory and give more support for the shaft in use.
The first gear band/drum must be well worn to be adjusted up so much that the return spring is almost coil bound.
Allan from down under.
Re: Which band adjustment via outside Hogshead RHD?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:53 pm
by speedytinc
The brake spring is short a couple of coils.
Low seems to be missing the special notch washer, hence the extra jam nut.
Re: Which band adjustment via outside Hogshead RHD?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:11 pm
by Wayne Sheldon
speedytinc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:53 pm
Low seems to be missing the special notch washer, hence the extra jam nut.
Spring is too compressed? May be the drum is too worn?
That might be part of why he isn't getting low to work. Either the spring or the band itself may be "bottoming out" resulting in no low gear engaging.
New thicker lining may help for awhile, but a few things in there need to be corrected.
Re: Which band adjustment via outside Hogshead RHD?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:24 pm
by speedytinc
Brake spring has 2 less coils.
Low band ear needs a squeeze to keep the spring from between the ear & shaft.
Low band has enough wear the spring will be over compressed @ full engagement, may bind. Needs relining.
Re: Which band adjustment via outside Hogshead RHD?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:27 pm
by Rata Road
Thanks guys,
Just got an email and he had the rear end jacked up before and once lowered to the ground low gear worked fine, adjusted reverse and that works fine now.
If it was mine I would be doing some replacement work in there like you suggest.
Always learning.....
Great feedback as always guys
Thanks
Re: Which band adjustment via outside Hogshead RHD?
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:28 am
by Kerry
And to debunk the myth that the removable ears can come off the band if fitted backwards from the rotation direction of the drums, RHD have the band fitted with the removable ears on the right side.