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Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:19 am
by John kuehn
Here’s a photo of a supposedly 1911 Model T. It appears to be staged as the caption with it said its a Model T being repaired with the tools and tool bag that came with the car. Looks like to me the tire was cut off instead of being removed with the tire tools. Or maybe a prop tire?
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:16 am
by speedytinc
Is the tire changer napping in the shade before starting the job??
Or does the owner tighten the rods every blown tire as part of the normal service interval??
But seriously, is that the tool roll/container that came stock in 1911???
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:50 am
by KWTownsend
I have never seen a tool bag like that for a Model T, and can't identify any of the tools as those that came with a 1911 Model T.
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:52 am
by Jones in Aiken SC
I don't believe that is an original tool roll container as issued by Ford. Far too fancy.
The lady on the right appears ready to pump air into that tire that is cut in half. I would guess this is a "humorous" staged photo.
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:12 pm
by ModelT46
This photograph is probably taken in England. The headlights do not seem to be US made. Look closely, it may be a right hand drive. The tool bag and tools support the idea it is a British Model T.
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:13 pm
by Steve Jelf
Fortunately, Bruce McCalley (a brilliant researcher) often is the best source of clues. The tool roll shown in the photo (#2336) first appears in the parts book issued in January, 1911, minus the part number. The price is shown as 35¢. Its first appearance in a picture is in the parts book of May, 1912, at the same price.
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:18 pm
by ModelT46
Interesting. I first thought it may be a British T.
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:20 pm
by ModelT46
I should have not jumped to conclusions. I was wrong about right hand drive when the horn is on the left side.
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:08 pm
by RajoRacer
She's got both hands holding the pump handle - he's got the business end of the pump hose held onto the tube stem.
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:26 pm
by Original Smith
I agree with Keith.
Ford never used a tool bag like that.
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:31 pm
by John kuehn
I checked the Cimorelli Model T website. There is a list of the parts books and in the 1912 book there is the picture of the tool roll bag with T tools. That’s also a pretty good source on T information. Maybe the picture from the exploration of history website is a 1012? Anyway the picture is staged.
Whoever took the time to put the Cimorilli site together did a pretty good job. And of course Bruce McCalley did too!
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 5:19 pm
by Charlie B in N.J.
This photo really looks “of the period” that is taken many years ago. That being said what the bloody hell they are supposed to be doing is beyond me.
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 5:20 pm
by Steve Jelf
Ford never used a tool bag like that.
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:46 pm
by Allan
Steve, I am not convinced that the tool roll in the catalog/parts book is a tube with sewn in round ends like the one in the photo. The photo one is way more complex than a simple flat roll with pockets for each tool. I could be wrong again.
Allan from down under.
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:12 pm
by John kuehn
The bag number on the parts list book is #2336 as you mentioned. The photo picture of the posed car is a guess as to what exactly they were doing anyway. There was probably items thrown in the photo setup from what ever they could find. Ford products or whatever.Maybe some original bags??? . But if they did they aren’t very many. The bag itself if Ford had one to begin with was probably thrown away like several non essential items after a few years or so.
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:15 pm
by JTT3
Is this a carburetor?
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:50 am
by KimDobbins
The tool roll pictured in the parts book is a flat tool container rolled up. The one in the first picture is not the same, it's an entirely different tool container.
Re: Early brass T tool bag and etc.
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:18 am
by Tbird
Must of been early AAA roadside service showing up with their own tools
