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The 7th photo from the top. The ‘Bill & Art’ touring car:
The flap on the cowl extending over the hood. Was its function to reroute rainwater from the coilbox ?

Is there a reason they have such larger than normal tires on the front and standard sized tires on the rear? I wonder what the occasion or goal was. More than a weekend camping trip.

I could be wrong, but the driver looks like a man with three women in the back seat. Interesting trip.

How tall do you guesstimate daddy long legs here is? When driving, his knees must get in the way of his chin.

jiminbartow wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:40 pm

Is there a reason they have such larger than normal tires on the front and standard sized tires on the rear? I wonder what the occasion or goal was. More than a weekend camping trip.

Or is it just image perspective
Tire width ?

I resemble that remark! LOL

jiminbartow wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:00 pm

How tall do you guesstimate daddy long legs here is? When driving, his knees must get in the way of his chin.


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The second photo depicts a Ford Motor Company Model T with a Beaudette Body Company manufactured delivery car body.
Ron Patterson

Number nine appears to be a 1916 (or very late 1915) folding top couplet. Although the angle does not show it well, it appears to have the small oval corner window on the side of the top (near the back).

jiminbartow wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:40 pm

Is there a reason they have such larger than normal tires on the front and standard sized tires on the rear? I wonder what the occasion or goal was. More than a weekend camping trip.

Note the creel on the left. I am certain there would at least be an attempt at fishing.

I'm sure there's quite a story behind some of these photos, I expect attribution could help somewhat in finding out more...?

Anyway, just to add a little colour in lieu of the real background, here's another view

Looks good. I’ll bet the stripes and front strip on that awning were red. Can anyone read the year on that license plate?

Appears to be a 1916 Washington license plate.
West Coast camping/fishing trip.....

All the women are smiling...and judging by all their haul they just killed it at the Black Friday Sale!

Date on plate looks more like 1913 which may be more in line with the year of the T.

To me, it looks like 1916 or 1918.

In photo 9, taken in Dickenson Center NY., you can google the town and zoom in to street view. If you look at the corner of Main St. and Church St. and go up Main street a little you can see the brick house in the background of this photo. The house is almost intact. Also, concrete raised walkway and the telephone poles are in the same places. Why would they need to change positions? Only change the wood pole itself. Interesting. Thanks Tom.

Here ya go...

Don't hitch a ride with the Kentucky Glycerin guy.

1925 Touring wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:31 pm

To me, it looks like 1916 or 1918.

I've used some advanced imaging techniques on the original scan, in my view the number is most likely 1916, but there's a fair bit of speculation involved in that. If we didn't know it was meant to be a year in the 20th century the output looks more like 1216!

Of course this highlights one of the reasons why attribution is important - if it doesn't answer the question directly it could give an opportunity to research further and establish useful background...

Luke.

From a bit of Washington License Plate History....
The 1916 plate was first year for Washington and
"WN 10672" issued between June 15 / July 15 of 1915
and expired on February 29, 1916. After 1916, "N" was
underlined. Photo between June 1915 and February 1916.
Before summer of 1915, it was a leather/make your own.

The two scary guys in picture 11 look like they could be related to Ed Gein.

I would sure like to look over the car in number eleven! Obviously not any standard T factory body!
While the rear section and door look to maybe be common center-door sedan? What is forward of that door is very different. It appears to have a narrow fixed window ahead of the rear door, with an additional front door ahead of that window.
The companies that built the center-door sedan bodies for Ford also built similar center-door sedan bodies for other smaller automobiles. The 1917 Maxwell center-door sedan is almost an identical body to Ford's with just a few minor changes inside and in the body sills to fit the different chassis. And, yes, it was a Maxwell factory offering.
Those same coachbuilders as well as a few others also built center-door sedan bodies for slightly larger automobiles. Dodge offered a center-door sedan for several years, and a couple of them still survive. I have seen original era sales literature or era photos of Studebaker, Chalmers, and quite a number of others. A few years back, I heard that a Studebaker (1917 if I recall correctly?) also still survives.

The rear end, fender, and running board do appear to be model T. Could this be a special after-market offering? Or a custom build? I can't tell if the chassis is standard length or not? So many questions!
I even wondered if it could be one of the "sedan kits" made to fit on top of the standard model T touring car body? But a couple details don't seem to fit that notion. Still, maybe?