Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
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Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
Hello everyone, is there anyone that would be willing to loan out a hub threading tool? A previous owner badly damaged the threads on one of my rear hubs a long time ago, and ended up painting over the threads to hide the problem (quality craftsmanship if I've ever seen it ). I managed to fix the other side just using a 24 tpi thread file, but the remaining side is a little too bad for the file to work alone. The thread chaser tool from Lang's is on backorder with "no end in sight." If there is anyone that would like to loan me one for a short while, I will gladly pay for postage both ways. Thanks.
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
Try using a hub puller. There is one slot there. If you have an extra puller you can cut a few more slots and and make your own.
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
Eric sent you an email.
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
The trouble with the usual chaser is that it has to thread on from the outside. That's where the threads are often boogered up worst. The tool you want is Stevens T-181. Unfortunately it's rare and usually expensive. I've thought of making my own, but haven't got to it yet.
The inevitable often happens.
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
Steve: I would love to find one, but they are, as you said, rare and/or expensive. Some day I might make one if I have the need and haven't found a Stevens by then; however, a chaser will probably be fine in this case. Fortunately the threads on the outside are fine and it's a spot in the middle that gives me trouble.
Hank: Thanks a bunch!
Hank: Thanks a bunch!
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
Eric ; As I could not find one here in Holland , I had to make one .
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
Jack Putnam made some of these. They work great. Dan
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
Are we not a Model T community of trust and respect? Eric asked to borrow a hub thread chaser and pay for shipping both ways. I’ll be glad to send you a TTP thread chaser on loan. Instead some say they made their own because originals are rare and expensive. Another suggests a tool ( hub puller) that won’t work reestablishing threads. Still another names someone who made a lot of thread chasers and exclaimed “they work great”. Eric, send your street address to gwhouse731@gmail.com and I’ll loan you my thread chaser...
I don’t know why I turned out this way. My parents were decent people.
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
George,
I sent mine to Eric this morning, all is good. As you I support the club and members in need. I have never been burned by a Model T Brother or Sister, just a new friend found.
United we are for sure, gives the soul a good feeling helping another in need.
All the Best,
Hank a Humbled Hillbilly
I sent mine to Eric this morning, all is good. As you I support the club and members in need. I have never been burned by a Model T Brother or Sister, just a new friend found.
United we are for sure, gives the soul a good feeling helping another in need.
All the Best,
Hank a Humbled Hillbilly
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
Good on you Hank “ There is s destiny that makes us brothers. None goes his way alone. All that we send into the lives of others. Comes back into our own.”....Admiral Yamamoto
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No Greater words spoken my friend!
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
I use the one I bought at Lang's and really like it. I saved 2 1911 hubs with it.
https://www.modeltford.com/item/2815T.aspx
https://www.modeltford.com/item/2815T.aspx
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
To clarify: yes, Hank sent me one this morning and I am grateful.
I had emailed Jack Putnam (yesterday) about potentially purchasing a repro one from him, but he has yet to get back to me. Might be a bit expensive for me anyway. I like the design that Anthonie posted in this thread, I might try to replicate it in the future if I have need again.
Mario: I called Lang's yesterday to ask about the wheel puller adapter that came with their thread chaser, and they said they no longer offered the puller adapter. They also mentioned that the company that made the chasers for them had "changed hands" and that the chasers themselves were on back order with no known fulfillment date. Anyone looking might still get one from Snyder's.
Either way, it was still a bit difficult to justify $100 for a tool I might need for maybe 20 minutes . I'll try to make one in the future if I end up needing one (which I'm sure I will, I hope to be part of this hobby for a long time).
I had emailed Jack Putnam (yesterday) about potentially purchasing a repro one from him, but he has yet to get back to me. Might be a bit expensive for me anyway. I like the design that Anthonie posted in this thread, I might try to replicate it in the future if I have need again.
Mario: I called Lang's yesterday to ask about the wheel puller adapter that came with their thread chaser, and they said they no longer offered the puller adapter. They also mentioned that the company that made the chasers for them had "changed hands" and that the chasers themselves were on back order with no known fulfillment date. Anyone looking might still get one from Snyder's.
Either way, it was still a bit difficult to justify $100 for a tool I might need for maybe 20 minutes . I'll try to make one in the future if I end up needing one (which I'm sure I will, I hope to be part of this hobby for a long time).
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
Glad to see you located the thread chaser. I used one to repair a front hub but it was not as simple as you think. I could not get it started to follow the threads without it cross threading. I took it to an old timer, I'm seventy five and he had several years on me, and he showed me a unique way to use the chaser. He put the chaser in a vise and mounted the wheel onto it. The weight of the wheel and the ability to turn the wheel on a level plane quickly caught the threads and repaired them. Just my .02.
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
UPDATE (with pictures) for posterity purposes:
After attempting to use the hub thread chaser from Lang's (for about 6 hours total) in combination with plenty of oil and (eventually) an 18" wrench with little results other than some choice words and a bruised hand, I broke down and got an OTC Thread chaser, like that shown in the picture. Lang's chaser worked alright for one damaged hub, but the other was too far gone for the Lang's tool to work. This OTC chaser was about $70 on Amazon with same day delivery. Also commonly available at auto stores. After about 2 minutes with this OTC chaser (which required almost no effort at all), I was able to screw the hubcap all the way onto the hub using only my hand. I almost cannot believe how well it worked. The amount of grime and metal shavings that this tool was able to clean out of the threads is ridiculous. For anyone that might need this info in the future, simply select the right TPI die, attach it, oil up the hub, place the tool on and carefully thread it counter-clockwise (outwards from the wheel). It only took one sweep. A thread file is probably useful for cleaning up lingering burrs, but probably not necessary.
Pic of the thread chaser
Hub with painted over grime.
Bad gash in the worse-off hub. After thread filing and some scraping, before chasing.
Same bad gash after OTC tool. Not pretty, but the hubcap goes on all the way with no wrenching and that's good enough for me.
After OTC tool, other side.
Hank: I will send your Lang's chaser back to you tomorrow. Thanks again!
After attempting to use the hub thread chaser from Lang's (for about 6 hours total) in combination with plenty of oil and (eventually) an 18" wrench with little results other than some choice words and a bruised hand, I broke down and got an OTC Thread chaser, like that shown in the picture. Lang's chaser worked alright for one damaged hub, but the other was too far gone for the Lang's tool to work. This OTC chaser was about $70 on Amazon with same day delivery. Also commonly available at auto stores. After about 2 minutes with this OTC chaser (which required almost no effort at all), I was able to screw the hubcap all the way onto the hub using only my hand. I almost cannot believe how well it worked. The amount of grime and metal shavings that this tool was able to clean out of the threads is ridiculous. For anyone that might need this info in the future, simply select the right TPI die, attach it, oil up the hub, place the tool on and carefully thread it counter-clockwise (outwards from the wheel). It only took one sweep. A thread file is probably useful for cleaning up lingering burrs, but probably not necessary.
Pic of the thread chaser
Hub with painted over grime.
Bad gash in the worse-off hub. After thread filing and some scraping, before chasing.
Same bad gash after OTC tool. Not pretty, but the hubcap goes on all the way with no wrenching and that's good enough for me.
After OTC tool, other side.
Hank: I will send your Lang's chaser back to you tomorrow. Thanks again!
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Re: Looking to Borrow a Hub Thread Repair Tool
We live and learn in the path of life. Glad you were able to get something to work.
All the Best,
Hank
All the Best,
Hank