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Another new one on me. Coil problem

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 12:17 pm
by speedytinc
A T I am working on has a "new" set of Bitner coils. They look really nice. My local coil expert tells me they were really good coils. My first experience with his coils.
I took em to out thursday T party. (Teck session) Coils were way out of tune. Points are not marked KW or any other parentage.
Points took a lot of tweaking, but came in excellent on the ECCT.
One coil had the points stuck together.

Running in the T, one plug shorted didnt change the running @ that cylinder. In switching coils around, I found the problem was one particular coil. The points would stick together. I pull the coil, unstick the points & it functioned properly for less than a minute. Points stuck together again. So then, while running I feel the lower point not moving. I can push that point down & the motor runs on all 4 again for a few seconds While I feel the point fluttering.
So, pull the coil out again. Paying careful attention, I notice there is no point gap. Push down to unstick the points & the point gap reappears.

Surprise. The iron core pack is loose in the coil & moving itself up to the bottom of the point instead of magnetically pulling down the point plate.
I dripped some super glue around the core pack to wick in & lock the core in place. Will see today if that worked.
This is a coil problem I hadnt heard of before. "If if it aint something, its something else"

Re: Another new one on me. Coil problem

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:48 pm
by Original Smith
What is a Bitner coil? Never heard of them! I use only genuine Ford coils rebuilt by Ron Patterson. Never have a problem.

Re: Another new one on me. Coil problem

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:55 pm
by speedytinc
Yes, it is Bitners. They are all marked as such. Bitner was a guy that made NEW coils.
I also use Ron Patterson as my go to coil restorer. He does nice work.

Re: Another new one on me. Coil problem

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:47 pm
by J1MGOLDEN
Take the lid off one and you will see why no one has ever heard of them.

Re: Another new one on me. Coil problem

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:34 pm
by got10carz
If these are the coils I'm thinking about, they are not good. They are blond in color, the secondary resistance is about 8000 ohms, versus 3000 for a Ford coil. The car i worked on had 4 of them. 2 worked, 1 was totally dead, 1 (buzzed) internally, nothing externally. Call Ron.

Re: Another new one on me. Coil problem

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:36 pm
by J1MGOLDEN
Anyway, they did not have any tacky old tar in them that had to be removed to replace a capacitor.