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Excelsior Tires
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 5:19 pm
by Original Smith
I have a set of Excelsior tires I bought over a dozen years ago. They now have over 11,000 miles on them, and show now appreciable wear. I also have the USA made tubes in them with rubber valve stems which have held up equally well. I understand quality USA tubes are no longer available which is disappointing.
Re: Excelsior Tires
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 5:30 pm
by Steve Jelf
I've resorted to Hartford tubes, which have held up well. I get them with rubber stems for the lower price and install my own metal stems. Yes, they're made in China, and the quality is OK. People are equally smart everywhere, and any country can make good stuff if enough customers want it.
Re: Excelsior Tires
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 5:44 pm
by ModelTWoods
Steve Jelf wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 5:30 pm
I've resorted to Hartford tubes, which have held up well. I get them with rubber stems for the lower price and install my own metal stems. Yes, they're made in China, and the quality is OK. People are equally smart everywhere, and any country can make good stuff if enough customers want it.
Steve, who is the American vendor for Hartford tubes, and do they have 21' tubes?
Re: Excelsior Tires
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 5:51 pm
by Steve Jelf
I've been getting them from Coker, but I expect some of the other dealers sell them too. I don't know about 21" because I haven't needed any of those.
Re: Excelsior Tires
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 12:44 pm
by Original Smith
I'm looking at a new Hartford tube now. I wonder what the valve stem is made of? I hope it's not plastic!
Re: Excelsior Tires
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 4:07 pm
by Steve Jelf
It's been a couple of years since I bought new Hartfords, but I'm pretty sure the stems I cut off were rubber.
Re: Excelsior Tires
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:37 am
by love2T's
ModelTWoods wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 5:44 pm
Steve Jelf wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 5:30 pm
I've resorted to Hartford tubes, which have held up well. I get them with rubber stems for the lower price and install my own metal stems. Yes, they're made in China, and the quality is OK. People are equally smart everywhere, and any country can make good stuff if enough customers want it.
Steve, who is the American vendor for Hartford tubes, and do they have 21' tubes?
Was told just the other day that at least Langs wasn't handling them, and they were the first one's that I was able to acquire from years ago. So no idea what's going on with them. They do hold up well, I'm on my 3rd. set of tires using the same Hartfords bought several years ago from them. That's all I know. Which according to some, isn't very much.
Re: Excelsior Tires
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:16 am
by Line_Noise
I just bought two 440/475 21" tubes last month from Summit Racing, they were identified as Coker on their website but Hartford is what showed up.
For what it's worth, I weighed both the Hartford Tube and an old Ward's Riverside Made in USA tube, the Hartford tube was a little heavier, so at least the rubber is probably just as thick.