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Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 3:04 pm
by Original Smith
This morning I went to my pile of hub cap wrench's and found one I'm not familiar with. I assume it's from the mid to late teens. It has an M with a diamond around it, and below that is a P with a circle around it. I'm guessing the P maybe Pruden, but have no idea about the M?

Re: Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 3:36 pm
by Tadpole
“M” in a diamond is Mossberg, do your research Mr. Smith!

Re: Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:28 pm
by Rajo23
Mr. Smith is doing research, by simply asking this question.

Re: Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 6:52 pm
by John kuehn
Here’s a lot of information about the Mossberg company. According to the information they were a large early tool company with lots of different tools. http://alloy-artifacts.org/frank-mossbe ... #auto-spec

Re: Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:54 am
by KimDobbins
Many people don't do research, Larry is not one of them.

Re: Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 12:10 pm
by DanTreace
Research is the best way, always learning in that process.

This Chart on the Hub Cap wrench history is helpful when searching swaps for the more correct factory tool set for specific years, yet sure that there was overlap and many different mfg. sourced by Ford to obtain 15 million # 1349 wrenches !

Hub cap wrench history detailed.jpeg
My favorite is the last version, that has the flanges or lugs around the opening for the front axle bearing collar, sure helps to "tune in" that tapered bearing to the race.

This one has mfg mark, found it to be Weston Mott.

Aug 25 to the last T.jpeg
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Re: Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 12:46 pm
by got10carz
Was there a TT version that didn't have the T axle nut hole?

Re: Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 3:33 pm
by DanTreace
Nope. T and TT use the same hub cap wrench, cap hex fits both, the TT cap is larger, but same hex.

There is TT-5893 Wrench, used for cyl. head bolt, spark plug, and the TT rear wheel rim nut. Replaces the std. T-2335 spark plug, cyl. bolt wrench.


The record of change on earlier designs note for rear axle nut. Guess you could as hex is same, but short leverage with that wrench. I use mine for oil pan hex and diff plug hex when on the road carrying factory tool kit.

Re: Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 6:44 pm
by Allan
The axle nut hole is a poor afterthought. Many such wrenches show this to be butchered. There is no way it is actually fit for stated purpose, given the load expected to be applied to the axle nut. It does make a good tool for removing the hex drain plug on the pan though.

Allan from down under.

Re: Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 1:07 pm
by J1MGOLDEN
This is another Unknown Hub Wrench

The nut sizes are 7/8th and 1 inch and 1 3/4th inches.
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Re: Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 10:32 pm
by Allan
I had a four hole aftermarket one which was made of thinner material, therefore each hole had a pressed lip to give a load surface and some strength. It was nickel plated! The manufacturer I recognised, but now I cannot recall that detail. I have an idea that it was Walden-Worcester.

Allan from down under.

Re: Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:55 am
by DanTreace
J1MGOLDEN wrote:
Sun Sep 21, 2025 1:07 pm
This is another Unknown Hub Wrench

The nut sizes are 7/8th and 1 inch and 1 3/4th inches.

Odd Wrench.jpg


Rather sure that wrench is Chevrolet 490 hub cap wrench.

Re: Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:38 pm
by J1MGOLDEN
Thanks Dan!

Re: Unknown Hub Cap Wrench

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 7:13 pm
by Allan
I was lined up at the counter ready to pay for two of the three hole early wrenches at Ford "n' More, { now Model T Ranch} in Spokane, when i counted just 6 flats on the hubcap wrench end. It took me years to find the real deal for my 1912 van toolkit.

Allan from down under.