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Steering Column Removal

Post by James_B_NC » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:22 pm

Replacing the firewall in my 21 and can’t get the steering column out. Following the Model T bible, but is the timer rod supposed to be bent like this? It’s the only thing holding the bracket on.
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Re: Steering Column Removal

Post by Scott_Conger » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:33 pm

No

it is suposed to be straight
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Re: Steering Column Removal

Post by Duey_C » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:41 pm

Ouch. What do ya figure happened to that poor little bugger?
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Re: Steering Column Removal

Post by James_B_NC » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:16 pm

Scott_Conger wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:33 pm
No

it is suposed to be straight
Thanks. Bent it back with a torch and got the bracket off.
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Re: Steering Column Removal

Post by John kuehn » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:20 pm

There should be some images in the service manual showing close up pictures of the column. The timer and gas rods should be straight so the bracket can be pulled off. While your checking things out there is a bushing inside the bracket that probably need to be replaced because of excessive wear over the years.


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Re: Steering Column Removal

Post by James_B_NC » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:26 pm

Duey_C wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:41 pm
Ouch. What do ya figure happened to that poor little bugger?
I have no idea. This little truck has a 100 years of neglect I'm running through. Shoot, when I found it, the radiator was missing the nut for the driver's side mount, so my great-grandfather fixed it by jamming the post sideways in the frame and hooking the radiator on it.
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Re: Steering Column Removal

Post by James_B_NC » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:28 pm

John kuehn wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:20 pm
There should be some images in the service manual showing close up pictures of the column. The timer and gas rods should be straight so the bracket can be pulled off. While your checking things out there is a bushing inside the bracket that probably need to be replaced because of excessive wear over the years.
Yeah, I looked at that and the picture wasn't all that clear in my book. Also looked at the bushing and it seems to be okay. After all, it wasn't driven after the 50s and even then, it was a sawmill. When I found the thing, the key for the steering wheel shaft was missing too.
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Re: Steering Column Removal

Post by Scott_Conger » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:44 pm

Do not miss this opportunity to replace the bushing in the bracket. It is a source of slackness in the steering which will be with you forever, even if the entire front end is rebuilt.

Additionally, there is a felt ring that is packed into a groove at the top of the bracket...the original is likely petrified or missing. Replace it...it's cheap.
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Re: Steering Column Removal

Post by Duey_C » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:52 pm

"Shoot, when I found it, the radiator was missing the nut for the driver's side mount, so my great-grandfather fixed it by jamming the post sideways in the frame and hooking the radiator on it."
I sure hear you there James. :)
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Re: Steering Column Removal

Post by James_B_NC » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:27 am

Duey_C wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:52 pm
"Shoot, when I found it, the radiator was missing the nut for the driver's side mount, so my great-grandfather fixed it by jamming the post sideways in the frame and hooking the radiator on it."
I sure hear you there James. :)
I have an OT engine that has a piece of inner tube under a few boards stacked up against a fuel tank brace as a frost plug had rusted out!
I want to see more of your '21.
:)
Well, this is it when we pulled it out of the back of the shop where it sat since I was a little boy. This was last summer though
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Re: Steering Column Removal

Post by James_B_NC » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:35 pm

And this is it in its current state
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Re: Steering Column Removal

Post by Original Smith » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:45 pm

Drive out the pin for the timer rod lever, and everything will slide off. Then the steering column will come out of the firewall.

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Re: Steering Column Removal

Post by Duey_C » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:58 pm

Nice, I like BOTH pics! Thanks James.
Larry, did you even look at James' pic? :lol:
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Re: Steering Column Removal

Post by James_B_NC » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:32 pm

Duey_C wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:58 pm
Nice, I like BOTH pics! Thanks James.
Larry, did you even look at James' pic? :lol:
Thanks! Gotta say that I like it more in its current state simply because I've gotten to drive it around, despite a cracked low speed drum.
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