Ford Canada & Australia's 1927 Colours.

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Ford Canada & Australia's 1927 Colours.

Post by John Page » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:35 am

Recently I had the privilege of reading through a publication that celebrated the 50th Anniversary of the foundation of Ford Motor Company of Canada. Amongst a lot of interesting information I found the attached short article regarding Canadian paint colours.
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Finding this prompted me to add some information on Australian Model T colours.

This is late 1927 here in Australia quite some time after production ceased in the USA.
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http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article79516601

Best regards, John Page, Australia.

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Re: Ford Canada & Australia's 1927 Colours.

Post by Humblej » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:07 am

That second article about an auto show in Oct 1927 is most likely about the new Ford Model A.

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Re: Ford Canada & Australia's 1927 Colours.

Post by DanTreace » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:17 pm

That first article may have typo on the date, 1925.

Ford began painting in the then new Pyroxylin in early July 1926.

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So if the rest is true, that means Windsor plant of Ford Canada was only a few weeks earlier. ;)
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Re: Ford Canada & Australia's 1927 Colours.

Post by John Page » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:28 pm

To Jeff & Dan,
Thank you both for your posts.
Firstly to answer Dan’s post. You could be correct with the timeline with the Canadian article. 1954 is somewhat removed from when the actual event occurred and information can get out of context. While it may look like I am a new-commer I have been a member of this Forum since 2010 ( over 1000 posts on the old Forum ) and I have a lot of respect for all you contribute. You postings are always backed up with good evidence.

In answer to Jeff's post that they might be Model A Fords. Australia were still producing Model Ts right up to at least December 1927, — probably even into early 1928. I have documented evidence that the last of the Closed Model T's were still being shipped to dealers in April 1928.

Unlike the USA who released the first Model A’s in December 1927, the first Model A's here were released in May 1928.

Attached is a December 1927 Monthly Statement from an Australian Ledger. The story of that Ledger can be found in the Vintage Ford magazine March - April 2020.
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I also have documented evidence that the Ford Plant in Brisbane were sill trying to offload Model T Closed Cars to dealers in 1928 May.

MAY 1928.
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June 1928.
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“Courier” Officials Inspect New Ford Models at Eagle Farm Plant.
Last week, at the invitation of the Queensland branch manager, officials of the “Brisbane Courier” visited the Queensland branch plant of the Ford Motor Coy. of Australia- Ltd., to make an advance inspection of the much - discussed new Ford cars. This photograph, secured by the “Courier” staff photographer, was the first picture taken in Queensland of the new car.
From left to right: The elegant Ford “Tudor” Sedan, Messrs. H. E, Sisley (assistant branch manager, Ford Company), C. H. Briggs (general manager, “Courier”), Hardy Eustace (branch superintendent, Ford Company), G. V, Cornwell (Queensland branch manager, Ford Company), A. McDougall (advertising manager, “Courier”), Frank P. Jost (“Wayfarer”), and the ultra-smart Ford Sports Coupe. The new Ford forms the subject of a lengthy article on this page.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article21287401

I hope this sheds a little bit more light on the differences between the USA produced cars and the Canadian — Australian Cars.

Best regards, John Page, Australia.
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Re: Ford Canada & Australia's 1927 Colours.

Post by John Page » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:52 pm

Here is the transcribed version of the December 1927 Australian Ledger. Best regards, John Page, Australia.

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Re: Ford Canada & Australia's 1927 Colours.

Post by Luxford » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:11 am

John,
You are on the money, Ford Canada obviously was ahead of Ford USA with the introduction of Lacquer on the Model T Ford.
on 13th May 1926 ( 2 months before the July 1926 Detroit introduction) ) Ford Australia announced that their factories were now complete and the Ford would be finished in Lacquer in three optional colors, Imperial Blue, Empire Grey, and sage Brush Green.

As Ford Canada was controlling the Australian operations it would be logical that the introduction of lacquer was part of the production of the Improved Ford by them. In a Ford salesman's booklet of the period it states "Bodies are given a lacquer finish which while considerably more expensive than former methods, gives a much more attractive and durable finish"
Here is a screen shot (Fingers crossed it is working) of the newspaper article announcing the new Ford details.
The left side clear print is the translation , the right side the actual print from the newspaper.
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