When cranking to start, it “slips” out of neutral . .

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Lakesailor
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When cranking to start, it “slips” out of neutral . .

Post by Lakesailor » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:05 pm

and into gear. This makes cranking virtually impossible. Starting is only
accomplished by depressing the clutch pedal. What adjustments are needed to
prevent this ?


Scott_Conger
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Re: When cranking to start, it “slips” out of neutral . .

Post by Scott_Conger » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:16 pm

Teeth on the quadrant and the pawl tooth on the handbrake are all rounded off from 95 years of ZZZZZIIIIICCCCKKKK! Pulling on hand brake and allowing pawl to bounce across and wear out every tooth there. Badbadbad technique.

You need a new one of these: https://www.modeltford.com/item/3448Q.aspx

And this: https://www.modeltford.com/item/3458.aspx , however, I choose to grind a new profile on this original part and save myself that disassembly...FWIW
Scott Conger

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tmodeldriver
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Re: When cranking to start, it “slips” out of neutral . .

Post by tmodeldriver » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:30 am

Hi, James. What Scott said. For temporary you might slip a piece of 1" pvc pipe a few inches long down over the handbrake handle so it will hit the dash and prevent the lever from going forward into high gear. Please don't ask how I know this. :)


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Re: When cranking to start, it “slips” out of neutral . .

Post by Altair » Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:06 pm

There are lots of funny photos of crankers being pinned against the garage wall, I don't have one right now.


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Re: When cranking to start, it “slips” out of neutral . .

Post by John kuehn » Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:18 pm

Right on. Push in the release just a little to avoid the RaaaaaaaaaaaK!
I guess some didn’t learn to do that way back when. I have 4 frames and on one the ratchet is almost smooth but just enough to maybe have held the brake lever.

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Re: When cranking to start, it “slips” out of neutral . .

Post by AndreFordT » Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:24 pm

Just for your all safety.
Do not try to repair the quadrand and pawl just replace it with the hard steel ones the part dealers offer.

Andre
Belgium

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