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Topic author - Posts: 5460
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- First Name: Frank
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Cycle Fenders
Looking to fabricate some cycle fender brackets for my speedster build. Was hoping to get some pictures of what others have done front & rear). I have two methods looking for others.
The past is a great place and I don't want to erase it or to regret it, but I don't want to be its prisoner either.
Mick Jagger
Mick Jagger
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- First Name: Hap
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Re: Cycle Fenders
Steve,
From the photos you posted, it appears you have the Tulsa Site's article the late Fred Houston "Speedster Cycle Fenders" located on their website at "http://mtfctulsa.com/Tech/speedster_fenders.htm
Fred and others that contributed to that article had spent some time and effort looking into how to make Cycle Fenders easier for the rest of us to obtain. I reread the article but I didn't see what I thought I had read there years ago. I thought they had said they reviewed the method the Mercury Speedsters used and determined that while it worked well it required several casting that would drive the price up. I may have just imagined that? I know that some castings for the Mercury style mounts were produced a while back. They did NOT include the fenders or tubing that would connect the fenders to the castings. If you want to see if any of those are still available I would recommend contacting Jarvis (all things Mercury at: modeltbug"at"aol.com see also e-mail address at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/41 ... 1412046727 as well as Mike Bender (his contact information is at: https://www.mtfca.com/clubpages/chapters.htm#ok ) Mike had some of those reproduced and he may know where some might still be available?
See also the posting at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80 ... 1239764662 That shows the Mercury style fenders and brackets ready to install.
Below are photos that Mike Bender provided of the Mercury fenders mounted on a Mercury from the late "Speedy Bill's" collection:
Good luck with search. And please let us know what you come up with and how it works.
Respectfully submitted,
Hap l9l5 cut off
From the photos you posted, it appears you have the Tulsa Site's article the late Fred Houston "Speedster Cycle Fenders" located on their website at "http://mtfctulsa.com/Tech/speedster_fenders.htm
Fred and others that contributed to that article had spent some time and effort looking into how to make Cycle Fenders easier for the rest of us to obtain. I reread the article but I didn't see what I thought I had read there years ago. I thought they had said they reviewed the method the Mercury Speedsters used and determined that while it worked well it required several casting that would drive the price up. I may have just imagined that? I know that some castings for the Mercury style mounts were produced a while back. They did NOT include the fenders or tubing that would connect the fenders to the castings. If you want to see if any of those are still available I would recommend contacting Jarvis (all things Mercury at: modeltbug"at"aol.com see also e-mail address at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/41 ... 1412046727 as well as Mike Bender (his contact information is at: https://www.mtfca.com/clubpages/chapters.htm#ok ) Mike had some of those reproduced and he may know where some might still be available?
See also the posting at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80 ... 1239764662 That shows the Mercury style fenders and brackets ready to install.
Below are photos that Mike Bender provided of the Mercury fenders mounted on a Mercury from the late "Speedy Bill's" collection:
Good luck with search. And please let us know what you come up with and how it works.
Respectfully submitted,
Hap l9l5 cut off
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Re: Cycle Fenders
Frank, I would be wary of mounting fenders in the manner shown which features a 26-7 T wire wheel. Strap iron lacks rigidity at the best of times. The long straight section of strap from mounting point to fender gives plenty of scope for movement. Also, each of those mounting straps is free to flex in any plane on those two 90 degree twists. While the spindle arm mounting is solid and the nut will take considerable tension, that is not the case at the top of the king pin bolt. Excessive tension here will put load on the kingpin bushes, making steering tight. Leaving the king pins loose enough to cope with required steering forces will mean a less than tight mounting for the fender.
I was more interested in the cast steel Corbin speedometer swivel used. If the speedo is Corbin too, that is one quality installation.
Allan from down under.
I was more interested in the cast steel Corbin speedometer swivel used. If the speedo is Corbin too, that is one quality installation.
Allan from down under.
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Topic author - Posts: 5460
- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:56 pm
- First Name: Frank
- Last Name: Brandi
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- Location: Moline IL
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Re: Cycle Fenders
Thanks for the responses and cautions. I've collected a couple of ideas and trying to see how various designs play out Frank
The past is a great place and I don't want to erase it or to regret it, but I don't want to be its prisoner either.
Mick Jagger
Mick Jagger