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1924 ? Motor

Post by Dropacent » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:57 am

Here is an interesting picture from the Henry ford collections ( formerly Edison Institute) Notice anything?
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Re: 1924 ? Motor

Post by John iaccino » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:01 pm

1926-1927 water outlet and fan.


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Post by Joe Bell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:58 pm

25 pan, squared off pan mount ears at the bottom.


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Re: 1924 ? Motor

Post by Dallas Landers » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:03 pm

Too much chrome for a T.

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Re: 1924 ? Motor

Post by Steve Jelf » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:07 pm

I think the plated parts would be nickel, not chrome. I wonder about that fan. Is it a prototype two years before it was put into production? Or was this engine "updated" years later? My guess would be the latter, like the repaint job on #15,000,000.
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Re: 1924 ? Motor

Post by Will_Vanderburg » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:23 pm

I don’t think this engine was removed from the assembly line and slated for a museum. More than likely it was a block that came in and they wanted an engine display so they cobbled one together and made the plaque based on the engine number.
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Re: 1924 ? Motor

Post by VowellArt » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:07 pm

That is a 27's eccentric fan, 26 had the worm adjustment screw on the left side of the side engine, this one doesn't have that...but it does look like a 24, looks just like mine (in my 22 touring) although mine isn't so garishly painted or plated as this one is. Whoever thought this up should be shot, Gawd! what an ugly engine! :(
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Post by John kuehn » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:58 pm

Even has nickel plated spark plugs. I wonder if Ford plated them or if Champion did them.

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Re: 1924 ? Motor

Post by Ruxstel24 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:07 pm

Dallas Landers wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:03 pm
Too much chrome for a T.
Yep..."Chrome won't get you home" !! Bling !! :P

However, it might look good in a speedster. ;)

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Re: 1924 ? Motor

Post by TMiller6 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:06 pm

There’s a funny thing about many of the engines and vehicles that are in the Museum. Over the years, Ford had opportunities to help. My former manager was one of a team who helped get one of the first Model A cars running for the 75th anniversary celebration. Another man who worked in our files told me he helped with 999 when it was parked on the north end of EEE inside by the double door.

When I first transferred to EEE in early 1980, several of the Model T engines now at the museum were still stored in the aisles of the annex of The building. Further, we had several engines in our lobby as well as the lobby of the Dynamometer building. A 1924 display engine most certainly would have spent time at EEE since the Museum was not open until 1929. It is my assumption that prior to its donation, the engine was prettied and plated prior to its donation to the Museum. Ford has a team responsible for creating display engines and cutaways for the auto shows and building displays. I have no doubt that appearance took precedence over correctness. This would explain stuff like the later manifold clamps and two row core (27) fan hub.

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Re: 1924 ? Motor

Post by Dropacent » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:25 pm

Great info , Tom. Now, I will be checking under your hood for that missing chrome plated manifold clamp


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Re: 1924 ? Motor

Post by D Stroud » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:43 pm

Somewhere, I have a picture of that engine taken in 1964 at the Henry Ford Museum with a Kodak Instamatic camera. Remember those? I also have a picture of a six cyl. engine on a stand taken there. I don't know exactly what it was, but to me it looked like a Model T engine, but had two more cylinders. I always thought it was an experimental one, but maybe it was one like Rob has. I was 14 at the time. Dave
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Re: 1924 ? Motor

Post by AndreFordT » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:57 pm

David,

I don't know how much of those 6 cylinder model T engines were build but here are a few photos of a 6cylinder Model T car.

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Re: 1924 ? Motor

Post by AndreFordT » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:59 pm

Just forgot this one.

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Re: 1924 ? Motor

Post by Kaiser » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:06 am

It has a distributor, the horror :o
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Re: 1924 ? Motor

Post by Mark Nunn » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:59 am

d stroud wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:43 pm
Somewhere, I have a picture of that engine taken in 1964 at the Henry Ford Museum with a Kodak Instamatic camera. Remember those? I also have a picture of a six cyl. engine on a stand taken there. I don't know exactly what it was, but to me it looked like a Model T engine, but had two more cylinders. I always thought it was an experimental one, but maybe it was one like Rob has. I was 14 at the time. Dave
Dave, the Museum of American Speed in Lincoln acquired a 6-cyl Model T prototype engine when THF sold assets. My cousin saw it there 5-10 years ago and was told THF tried to buy it back but was denied.

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