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[Allan]

bought these two spanners in a junk emporium a day or two ago. Because of the Ford script, the chunky one was $10. The other has had the Ford ground off for some reason, so it was only $2.
I presume the chunky one is older. Can anyone enlighten me ?

Allan from down under.

[Allan]

OK ! That didn't work. Back to the drawing board for the photo.

Allan from down under.

[AdminJeff]

I fixed it for you!

[fliverfan]

From what I've been able to gather from these two links below, the tool on the right was an over the counter T accessory wrench or one found in a standard Model A tool kit. Rumor has it, if it's marked Ford U.S.A it's post 1930.

http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/S-T.htm#tool

And

https://mafca.com/tqa_tools.html

[RajoRacer]

I understand the one on the right with the large script to be very early T or possibly earlier - I also have one.

[KWTownsend]

Allen-
Steve is correct. The large script is early. Something like pre 1915.

[DanTreace]

Appears lot of changes over the years to the T-1917 Double End Wrench , which is actually titled on the drawing as Gasoline Pipe Feed Pack Nut and Transmission Band Adjusting Nut Wrench.

No wonder the Parts and Price List labels 1917 as Double End Wrench

The wrench ends are marked "1" for the Adj. Nut and the other end marked "2" for the Pack nut.

This drawing is June 3, 1913 which has earlier rev. in Aug. '13 and Nov. '13 ( the rev. would be described on the Change Sheet, which I don't have).

But this final is also noted Revised in full date block with added below rev. dates of Aug '20 and June '21.

The wrenches on the print are these later versions, as you can see on the print, the width at the center of the taped ends is just 5/8" wide. The wrench on the upper left is right at 5/8" wide in the center. So by '20 or bit earlier one could guess the wrench got the newer smaller shapes

One can then assume a T-1917 with large Ford Script that fills in a much wider shape, like the one on the early Parts Book below, would be correct as the early version.

[Allan]

Jeff, I won't ask how you did that, but if you volunteer to tell me, please keep in mind that you are dealing with an old timer not at all familiar with this stuff. I have yet to work through transferring photos from my phone to the laptop. I had the process, including size reduction, down pat on the old forum. This is a whole new ball game.

Thanks for your help. i was stunned to see the photo come up on my post, days after I posted it!

Allan from down under.