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For those that know the car, the running forever joke was...when was the hood coming out of primer? (It has been in primer for at least a decade, if not more...the only part of the Hack never painted black

October 1, 2019 !

Having nothing else planned for today...the hood is now done and on the car...a procrastinators nightmare!

Used the old 25 TT to haul the drive chain off the excavator back to the shop to repair a broken link. That chain weighs a couple hundred pounds.

Now thats how to use a TT fellas! Thanks Pat.

After work today, I took the TT to the next town for a cruise in and parade at corn school street fair. Im happy to report that there were two cars older than my 23 TT. A couple buddys brought a 21 DB coupe and a 22 center door. We were mixed in with the chrome dripping big V-8 cars and trucks. I was behind a pro street camero but I got the cheers and thumbs up. I couldnt hear the TT over the big block but I could feel it. Driving it so much this summer make me part of the truck. What a nice drive home in the dark! Nice cool evening after 87 degrees today felt great. Nice country roads with the putter putter of the engine and the warm glow of the headlights was a relaxing 7 or 8 miles home.

Well I finally got my 1916 finished for the Red Dust Revival in Western Australia.
Unfortunately it appears to have snapped a triple gear shaft. But I had heaps of fun in other cars!

Looks like a fun, red time Davey !!
What’s the dark red car beside the T ?

Yesterday I took time out from fretting about hard starting to finish and install a Garmin mounting bracket.

I'll install a real 1915 speedometer when I remember where I put it. With that, and the Garmin, and the bike speedometer, I'll have two back-ups for each of them.

Ruxstel24 wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:55 am

Looks like a fun, red time Davey !!
What’s the dark red car beside the T ?

It's a 194x Riley. The cars got a massive racing history in Australia and lots of the body panels used to be made of old signs! Was for sale too!

I just painted Lucille, our 15 roadster bright canyon red like my wife wanted . She got it ! It has a long way to go to be able to drive ,but it is a start . I asked ones that saw both which one they liked better ,and Lucille got more votes ,I wonder why? Vernon is a lot more along ready for the engine. The trans is what holding me up. I will try to post pics latter. MEL.

I got the opportunity to play chauffeur for some friends.
The weather was beautiful and it was a picture perfect day!

: ^ )

Keith

I disassembled 3 '27 motors, found good trans parts and 3 EE cranks. I Discovered Zepp Purple (all you can get in Socialist Ca) actually does a decent job of getting 90+ year old grease and grime loose from old engine blocks and internal parts. It's also good at bleaching bare hands.

Thanks to all the sales I've been making, my wife is looking the other way for now on the credit card bill... All my parts are in that I need for the build. Dan's triple gear setup is nothing short of amazing.

My block, all shiny and clean is at the machine shop getting bored for .040 Jahns pistons. Next weekend I head to Erik's for Babbitt in the block, final boring and trans assembly. I will take over the rest.

This time I'm not cutting any corners. It'll be about 2 mos from blowup to startup but worth it.

The most interesting thing I've found is that All of the triple gear pins I've removed from all three motors were all substantially worn. Not apparent by visual inspection, but using a micrometer, there is a 8-20 thou variance along the shaft, mostly at the bottom where the pin meets the flywheel. In the future I will always replace those pins, along with the bushings, of course. I see lots of pontification about bushings and running fit, but not enough discussion of the role the pins play in all of this.

AdminJeff

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Went to a local farm stand for a load of apples for applesauce and drying. .

Been aworkin on Granny's elixir jug for my Beverly Hillbilly's vehicle, Elly Mae.

The wife and I drove the TT to town for supper with friends. It had the normal lookers in the parking lot during supper. Lots of photos and smiles. I enjoy watching others smiles as they look it over. We came out to leave and a couple were looking and taking photos. I opened the door and the lady said " you drove it here?" I said yes maam. She said she thought it was a prop for the resturaunt. I can see how she thought that as it was parked under the sign for the "twin"
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Went on a short tour with the club on Sunday. On the way to the meeting spot lost the nut and retaining washer on my 98 year old muffler. Didn't loose the shells so sorta put it back together for rest of tour. Oh well guess after 98 years it's time to retire off my driver. The end caps are getting kinda ratty with lots of blow by. For now it will go on the 25 that only gets used once a year for a local parade.
Some shots of the cars on tour;

Well I delivered my 27 TT closed cab dump project and three truck loads of spare Model T parts to their new home a town away. I wasn't going to get it finished anytime soon and the right person came along that wanted to buy it. They got the truck, 2 1/2 cabs, dump bed, original flatbed, 3 T frames including and mid teens frame, rears, front ends, etc. Anything I could load on their truck. A burden of having to care for all those parts has been lifted and have space back in my garage. I kept my basic parts to one day build my T speedster and keep my Grandad's 26 TT going. - Matt

I got out for about a 45 minute drive before dark and the rain came. 80 degrees and sunny today...rain tonight and MAYBE we’ll get over 50 tomorrow !!
She’s running great and I hope to get a few more putts in before she goes into hibernation.
Haven’t done much of anything other than lube, check fluids and tires for quite sometime.

Been a while since I've posted anything so thought I would share my day on Saturday the 12th...

Was asked three weeks ago by the bride's mother if I would bring my '26 to drive the couple after their wedding, so trailered it to a town 35 miles away and drove them and six carloads of other people after around town too. Was a bit cool, about 42F but sunny so it was a good day overall.

Just after the ceremony
In front of the bishop's residence next to the church
A picture while they were being photographed by the professional photographer
The 'gag' shot, trying to figure out why the car won't start...

I finally got all the fenders and splash shields "adjusted" and mounted. Now to design and build the body. The hope is to build a Hack / delivery type body. The 2x4s on the back were just so I could mount the rear fenders and visualize the length of the T. It's taken me 18 months to get to this point. I will confess there were days I didn't think I would get this far.
First photo where I started, second where I am now.

Lookin good Jim !

FINALLY got my wheels done for my 1915 runabout restoration project. They turned out nice, but took way longer than I wanted to spend on them. I also put together the lamps, windshield hinges and reinstalled the top windshield half. I am finding that I much more enjoy putting together restored pieces than I did taking things apart and fixing them up! It is good to see pieces coming out of the basement and back onto the car.

Neal,
Will your 1915 be ready for the Flatland T's "Duck Hunt" in a little less than two weeks?
Verne Shirk

Verne,

Unfortunately no. I still need to finish my upholstery work and top installation. After that I need to finish putting it all back together. I'll be lucky to be done by Thanksgiving.

I removed the Limo's windshield, it was plate glass. And the frame across the top was right in my line of vision. I designed a new windshield and took the template to the glass shop, it should be ready for pick up later this week. In fact I bought two, I am going to put one on Elly Mae too, but I have to design some stantions for it. Night temperatures have now gotten into the 50's, shielding from the wind should make driving a little more comfortable.

The other picture shows the area behind the transmission where the Ruckstell shifter goes, the support for the master cylinder is in the way of standard mounting. I think the shifter can be moved back a few inches by extending the bolts that hold the support.

DJPeterson wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:12 am

Went to a local farm stand for a load of apples for applesauce and drying.
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Nice pickup, bet it turns heads.....would look good next to mine for sure.

This last Sunday our club had an impromptu or last minute BBQ. The weather was nicer than at first foretasted. We had a nice turnout including one interesting very healthy speedster.

The master cylinder prevents me from mounting the shift lever for the Ruckstell:

I am driveling it 1,500 and counting.

Time for a little “exploratory surgery” to see what we have inside.......also preparing the A for its winter nap.

Nothing that spectacular, but a new baffle for the muffler.
Coming into the home stretch of an axle rebuild/overhaul and I wanted to replace the reproduction cast iron muffler with an original. The original cast iron muffler had a good shell and baffle but the inner baffle was rusted quite thin and had a few extra holes. Using the inner baffle from the reproduction was not an option as it was about an 1/8" shorter and rattled like you wouldn't believe once installed. A 14" long piece of 2" O.D. pipe and 4 holes later and we are good to go.

Working on hood for 26 Tudor and ran across some odd items regarding the center pivot which is the hanger rod to the cowl and radiator shield. It has a split steel tube pressed in to hold both halves together and they took a 3/8" bolt and cut the head off and ground the threads to form a taper like a punch and drove it into the steel tube. The split in the tube would catch when raising the hood and it would seize and would bend the sheet metal.

It also caused the sheet metal to roll and scrape and the paint, which you can see in the attached photo. Just sharing another can of worms when working on this 93 year old classic that belonged to my dad. I also attached a picture of the car.

I'm pretty familiar with the sounds emanating from the engine of my T and something just wasn't right lately. A rod? I certainly hope not. Further investigation revealed that with the fan belt relaxed, most of the noise disappeared. The fan wobbled some on its mount so I purchased and installed new bushings and a shaft. I also noticed that all 4 screws holding the fan blades were loose. No cracks in the blades but I added lock washers. Now I note that the crankshaft pulley has about 3/8" play upon rotation, the holes being elongated over the years. I'm not in the mood for a fight so off with the radiator.The pin was really bent so I drove it out as far as I could one way, cut if off and then drove it back out.

I have one of those aluminum flanged replacement pulleys which slipped on fine but the rolled pin was not easy to install as others here have found. I always think, "If something's really difficult to install, how easy will it be to replace later, maybe out on the road". The standard pin fit great using a small ball peen but I still like the idea of a cotter pin and my crank ratchet, while fully engaging, sometimes failed to disengage smoothly which could prove to be a real problem. Then I remembered reading about drilling new holes in the old pulley 90° from original holes. I set it up in the drill press, carefully aligned the pully and drilled it out, 5/16" all the way through, 3/8" through three holes and top hole somewhat bigger. Installed the new pin and cotter. All is well. Tight on the crank with no movement at all.

I'm hoping this will cure all noises that I have been noticing. I hope so. A real plus is that if Larry Smith does a visual on my motor, I doubt he will even notice the replacement pin.

Al

Stake racks cut and assembled. Now to disassemble, treat with the West System, and paint.

A LOT of patch panel work....
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Took the coupe out a wee spin , headed for the car park at slemish mountain where st Patrick once roamed . Last time I tried to get up into the car park it wouldn't climb due to low fuel , filled her up this time before climb and made it in low gear and low ruxtall

Great morning for a drive and doing chores. I headed for the feed mill The scenery was great Traffic was a bit heavy

At the mill. On the way home a buddy called and asked me to go to a car show at the high school. A couple senior's were doing it for a school project and food drive. I changed course from home to the high school in the next town, feed and all. About 35 cars were there. I left for the mill at 10am and got home at 2:30 pm. You never know where you will wind up in a T.

Dallas, it was a nice day, too bad I was cutting wood all day. Could’ve used your TT !!
Maybe tomorrow I can get mine out.

I can come over. We can whack the back of that touring and put on a wood bed and Wa La, instant wood hauler!

Got another one of those 26's that with water pump needs 35" fan belt. The only belting we had was too thin for one layer so had to use contact cement to join the two layers together then stitched along the edges and both sides of the butt joints. I have a 29-4 Singer walking foot. The first attempts I used too thick of thread and sometimes got a good stitch and sometimes not on my practice piece. Tried upholster thread, worked great! Because of my bad foot I had to turn the wheel by hand, that is a lot of turns. Of course every time I turned the wheel I twisted so was hard to keep a straight line feeding with my left hand, but it came out ok. Nice thing about a walking foot, you can turn the feed foot and do zig-zag which is what I did at the joints.

Dallas Landers wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:11 pm

I can come over. We can whack the back of that touring and put on a wood bed and Wa La, instant wood hauler!

I’m thinking the TT would do a little better...thanks anyway buddy !!
The Dodge will have to do for now, probably had 1500lbs on it, judging by the squat.

I installed a Fun Projects pinion bearing in my spare driveshaft today in preparation for a rear end rebuild.

Yesterday my radiator shop said that my radiator is not repairable. Tanks have spiderweb cracks, the neck is split in several places and the core looks "like a lawn sprinkler." It COULD be repaired at a cost that rivals a new one. I guess I need to start looking for a replacement.

What have i done
Well sent a T to France and broke ground on another T #32 probly be my ladt but i said that afew T's ago
But eith all those euro's in my pocket this car getting alont new parts butcause my pile of surplus was finaly found new home earlier this year think how many parts will or have hit the market in thr hopes more cars will be in the road again
Thats what ive done

Drove my cousins place to visit this evening. I left a bit late to catch the sunset but the warm glow of the headlights on a gravel road with the clouds was very relaxing 7 mile drive home.

Just picked up rebuilt motor from Ron's Machine Shop.
Can't wait to get it installed and running

[image][/image] oil change band adjustment and new floor mat today

Just got home from driveling it to Hershey& home the long way 2850 miles
Today’s stats

2019 A and T tour with Central Wisconsin T’s. Drove 125 miles and had a blast, 5 T’s and 8 A’s participated.

I installed a new windshield in my TT Limo. The old windshield was plate glass and had a 2" oak frame around it. The top of that frame was in my line of sight.

The new windshield is of course laminated. It is higher to better block the wind and has no top frame.

This is the first time I have installed a windshield, and it is not going in the same way the old one came out. Time will tell...

As long as the rear axle on my ‘13 runabout is out for a rebuild I removed the rear spring. A good inspection after cleaning revealed no damage. A nice coat of slip-plate was applied and I will reassemble and install when dry.

I removed my 3-season air filter assembly and installed the OEM Ford carb air heater shroud. I also installed some flex ducting around the exhaust pipe and into my floor heater grate to get at least some heat into the cabin (or at least make it look like I'm trying).

I removed the round chunk of metal with the battery cable from the starter switch hooked to it and turned it into a starter. About an hour of good therapy that I needed.

Completed the interior in my 1927 Fordor.

Completed the interior in my 1927 Fordor.

That is lovely. Beautiful work.

Randy, Your upholstery job looks very, very nice. Did you install it yourself? Any problems or hints you can tell us about?
I'm going to be doing the same installation on our '27 Fordor soon and would appreciate your experience.
Thanks,
Keith

Today I bought a spark plug. Whoopee! That's more than I usually pay for plugs, but I'd like to amass a full set of these, and this one looked pretty good in the pictures.

Congratulations Steve! I have a set of Edison 14s in my Betsy and they run great. I also bought a spark plug, the extra long reach Metz plug that Bob Bergstadt advertised on Ebay.

I also unwrapped Betsy's side curtains and installed them in anticipation of the cold weather.

I got the QQ antique New Jersey plates yesterday.
The woman at the DMV was so excited about the old car she was showing her employees the pics of the car
Well they raised a few red flags with some of the workers. They didn’t want to give me plates because of no doors or windows Long story short, I got the plates but I had to show them pics of depot hacks from the internet
It was easier to get the Ohio title tensfered than to get the plates NJ is a crazy state

Just took the chance of changing to antifreeze before sending the T to sleep for the winter and replaced the old and leaking radiator shutoff valve.

Cudaman and Steve, I was very fortunate to find an NOS box of 10 of these plugs for $30. Haven't tried them yet. Good to know they perform great.

All I've done to my T is drain it yesterday as it gets colder here.

Sigh!

Marty

Nothing, but tomorrow I will crawl under to look at the carburetor. I was going to take the T for a quick spin, but when I turned on the gas, it poured out of the carburetor. The engine ran beautifully the last time I drove it, so I don't think it's a sticking float. My guess is a float bowl gasket. I have them in stock, so if my guess is correct the T should be running tomorrow (a rare bit of optimism).

Went for a ride through the Kettle Moraine Recreational Area. Stopped at some of apple orchards for apples, cider, and wine.

Steve, thank you.

KiethG, it was very intimidating but I knew I just had to jump in with both feet. This is a kit from Cartouche - they did make some mistakes, I had to take the passenger front cushion to a local upholstery shop to have the sewing fixed. The headliner was the most difficult but I did find a few tricks. I was so happy to have this done. The seats are easy to do, the front back rest was the most challenging. I will certainly help anywhere I can.

Randy

I heartily support KeithG's comments...lovely work!

Although I am new to Model T's, I volunteered to lead the Michigan Casual T's annual color tour after the previous sponsors had to cancel. I moved it to the Almont, Michigan area where I grew up. It was short notice and Tropical Storm Olga was threatening rain, but we still had seven Model T's, a Model A and three modern cars show up for a total of around 30 people. The tour went well, the color was awesome, lunch delicious and no rain until we were back at the parking area loading up. In short, it was fun, even if a bit cool.

Randy, Thanks for the reply. My kit is from Classitique. It looks very good, but I have to finish a few mechanical items first, upholstery is next after that.
Thanks,

Keith

Nice sunny October day in NE Ohio
Got a nice little putt in and saw some fall foliage. Still some color but not as much as some years.

Ken, Tim, Dave. You guys are livin! Keep it up with the photos.

Sorry I meant the Edison plugs.

Sunny and 63° today in Michigan's Thumb. The color is still good so the wife, dog and I went for a 40 mile tour of some of the nicer back roads. I'm trying to get as much in as possible before the white stuff puts an end to my Model T driving for this year.

Wonderful Tim!

Drove to Museum for docent work 5 times this month and to a car show for disabled adults last Saturday. The gas shut off valve has been getting very tight so I finally was down to a couple gallons gas and today drained out the gas and lubricated the valve. I did this to one of my other T's and the valve works very well so hoping it will work on this one too.
Norm

I glad I got the model T out last Saturday and Sunday because we woke up to snow this morning.

George, are you going to the Pumpkin Run at Fleming's Junkyard in Egg Harbor Township thus Saturday? If so, look me up. I'll be driving around the show in my "Ranch Car", an open wheeled '26 T chassis PU. I just built it up last weekend from random parts I had laying around. Wish I could figure out how to post pictures on this new format.... gave up multiple times. It's a pretty cool little buggy.

It turns out that my optimism was justified. I pulled the NH float bowl and the top gasket looked as though it had seen better days. I replaced it, and the O-ring on the bowl drain ans now the fuel is staying in the carburetor instead of pouring onto the floor. The gas smells bad though. I have the habit of keeping the tank full to minimize condensation, but over the last year I haven't driven the T much due to other projects. In the future I'll only keep about 4 to 5 gallons in it so that I will use it faster.

Wish I could figure out how to post pictures...

My advice is always to have some kid teach you how.