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Talk about speedsters please

Post by Herb Iffrig » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:22 am

Today I met with some friends at McDonalds. My friend Paul who was there said he would like to build a speedster that would resemble a Bugatti in the 1920's. He doesn't care about authenticity but would like it to outwardly look like the Bugatti roadster style. He doesn't want to wait to find all the special original parts it might take, he is wanting to have a car he can enjoy driving around. He wants to use parts he can mostly order from a catalog from the vendors. I assume that this would be built around Model T items.
Do you have any ideas or suggestions to help him. Perhaps he would be better finding something similar to what he wants and make it to suit him.
I would like to hear what you have to say.

Herb


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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by Burger in Spokane » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:01 am

How good is he at fabbing/welding and sheetmetal work ?
More people are doing it today than ever before !


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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by schwabd1 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:06 am

Herb, does he want an antique vehicle that looks like a Bugatti, or just a car that looks like a 20's Bugatti? A few years back someone made a Bugatti kit that fit on a Volkswagon chassis. I just googled "Volkswagon Bugatti kit" and found several for sale. Might be an option.....


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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by wayne sheldon » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:24 am

Model Ts are something a person needs to be drawn to. With their idiosyncrasies, and considerable safety issues, a model T is something that needs to be understood, and cared about. In return, they connect their caretakers with a connection to history, their own and the world's in general. Model Ts usually endow their people with an understanding of the world and people around them, beyond what most people will ever know. (If I am not careful, someone may lock me up for being a loony?)

If what someone wants is an unauthentic toy that resembles a Bugatti from the '20s? He would probably be better off with one of the Bugatti kit cars. They are for sale already done on eBad nearly all the time. Kits used to be available designed to be installed on modified Volkswagen chassis. With the climbing value (?) of '60s/'70s Volkswagen cars and parts, I do not know if such kits are still readily available or not. There used to be kits for use with other chassis also. Personally, I never cared much for the wanna-be-Bugatti cars myself. I have seen a lot of them over the years. And many people do enjoy them. I would guess, a person may be able to buy a completed car for less than the cost to build one.

I have seen a couple model T speedsters that somewhat resembled the Bugatti. One is owned by a fellow that lives not far from me. But he has other model Ts as well, and is a good model T person to begin with.
It really boils down to what an individual really wants. And what he wants in return from the car.


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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by Dharrison » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:09 am

Here is a picture of an authentic Bugatti that ran in the Santa Clara Valley Endurance Run. It has a lot of features. It was running an in-line 8 cylinder with over-head cams.
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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by John E. Guitar » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:46 am

I saw one of those Bugatti replicas outside a junk shop in South East Kansas a year or so back. It's probably still there.

The wheels look vaguely familiar...


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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by Poppie » Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:44 am

John E,
That body is fitted on a C 1960 V W chassis.
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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by tdump » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:30 am

That kit car there would be a blast to drive!
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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by John Warren » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:44 am

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Here is a speedster that Shane Latch is building that looks similar to the Bugatti.
24-28 TA race car, 26 Canadian touring, 25 Roadster pickup, 14 Roadster, and 11AB Maxwell runabout
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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by TRDxB2 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:21 pm

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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by Scott_Conger » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:39 pm

Frank

I'm not a speedster guy, but do recognize and appreciate style and design. That is one lovely speedster. Is it yours?
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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by AndyClary » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:52 pm

Before committing to a T chassis, I would recommend checking the Northwest Vintage Speedster website, nwvs.org. There are dozens of speedsters pictured, if there isn't one he like, he might not be able to use a T. I don't think you can get the passengers as low as the bugatti with a T chassis. He might see something that appeals to him.

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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by Herb Iffrig » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:57 pm

Thanks so much guys. I will let my friend see this and perhaps he will get on here and comment. I thought if I started a discussion the members here would come forth and be of assistance, and I was right.

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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by TRDxB2 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:51 pm

Scott, its not my Speedster - sold for $38,500 at a Barret Jackson Auction in 2015 with No reserve
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These are pictures from the link - "1926 Indy Speedster"
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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by Scott_Conger » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:43 pm

Frank

thank you for taking the time to post more photos. Simply, "Wow".
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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by Kaiser » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:56 am

Herb, if your friend Paul is willing to adapt his ways to the 'T tapdance' building on a T basis would be fun, parts and even speedster bodies are readily available, but if he has a hard time adapting he might be better off with something based on a A, plenty complete A speedsters on *bay. :roll:
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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by Henry K. Lee » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:57 am

Maybe I am showing my A$$, but...,as my Father told me, "The only limitations a man puts on himself, Is his ability to imagine, his ability to learn, and his ability to discipline time". I have followed the ole mans advice.


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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by Jeff Perkins » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:22 am

This is one that I really like......
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Re: Talk about speedsters please

Post by Henry K. Lee » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:40 am

Wait and see Dave Carnahan’s Baby if you like that one!

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