FS original 1911 model T Touring

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FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by KimDobbins » Thu May 27, 2021 11:26 am

For sale is a real nice original 1911 T touring. Its a complete car with all its original components. Complete original engine, drive train, body etc. accessory shock absorbers were installed long ago.
This 1911 Ford car was a gift from Henry Ford to William Markham who owned an adjoining farm to Henry. Markham was the inventor of the Markham/King air rifle which became the Daisy air rifle. The car was purchased in 1934 by Basil Daniels, then sold to the current owner in 1964.
The Vintage Ford Vol 2 #4 has pictures and info on this car.
Car is located in the Los Angeles area. Price is $35,000.00 email me at Kdmks AT att.net for more pictures or information.


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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by KimDobbins » Thu May 27, 2021 11:31 am

Current pictures, sorry for the sideways picture.
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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by KimDobbins » Thu May 27, 2021 11:36 am

More pictures
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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by Dollisdad » Thu May 27, 2021 9:40 pm

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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by Art Ebeling » Fri May 28, 2021 7:24 am

A very interesting Touring. I notice only one sill plate on the front door openings and it is wider like a rear sill plate. Art


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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by KimDobbins » Fri May 28, 2021 6:55 pm

There are a pair of accessory front doors that go with the car.


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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by Paul-Geil » Fri May 28, 2021 7:52 pm

Hi Kim,
Can you confirm the engine number, it looks to me like 88913.
Paul


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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by KimDobbins » Fri May 28, 2021 9:07 pm

SR no is 83913.

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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by KWTownsend » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:03 am

Art-
Good eye. Yes there is only one sill plate on the car as it should be. The non-opening driver's side fore-door covers that sill. The fore-doors that Kim mentioned are the correct fore-doors for the car, not accessory.

This amazing car was built about two weeks before my car was built and there are a lot of similarities. Besides the factory fore-doors, the car has E&J "no name" headlamps, and the firewall is solid, without outer veneers.

I studied the original upholstery of this car and used the dimensions when I made the upholstery patterns for my car. On cars of this era, the underside of the seat cushions are covered with hardboard and artificial leather.

I have a skillion photos of this car and although it no longer has the original color and the top was replaced very early on, it is otherwise mostly original. This very nice late 1911 car has the provenance to go with it.

I hope Kim finds a good caretaker for this automobile and hope that the next steward reaches out to me so I can share what I know about this car.

: ^ )

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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by Art Ebeling » Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:45 pm

I would like to know more about this car being a gift from Henry Ford and what documents support it. That story alone should sell this T. Art


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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by Sandow » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:52 pm

Neat car...Thanks for sharing


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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by KimDobbins » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:45 pm

A little more info.
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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by Michael Paul » Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:28 pm

This car is a part of Ford Motor Company history.

I hope you don't take offence, but....... Is everyone asleep?

When this finally sells and ends up overseas, we should all join the " What was I thinking club"


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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by KimDobbins » Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:12 pm

Price reduced to 30,000.00. This is a real quality car with a great history! I have not started the car, it has good compression. It was used by the family on tours and camping trips. It was parked shortly before the owners passing, always stored indoors. I am selling the car as a favor to the family.

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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by Henry K. Lee » Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:22 pm

I am with Michael Paul..., Like "HELLO".


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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by Michael Paul » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:05 pm

I found a set of original 1911 side curtains that would go perfect with this car. I would be willing to sell them to the new owner. A very unique car with all the accessories and history!

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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by Matt in California » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:54 pm

Kim,
I did a little research on the car and confirmed what you stated.

First according to the 1921 DMV records it was owned by W F Markham on 1435 Vine St Hollywood.
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Second "Captain" William F. Markham owned Markham Air Rifle Company the first air riffle company to make money. It was actually a competitor of Daisy when they started making their riffle across the street...

Evidently in the early 1920s he moved to Hollywood and had three cars in 1921. Neat history with this car!

Matt


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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by Michael Paul » Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:25 pm

Wow Matt great research! Yes it's an amazing find!
I'm still left scratching my head. Other than a coat of paint sometime in it's history. Everything on this car is right from the factory!


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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by KimDobbins » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:17 pm

Thanks Matt, great to have independent confirmation of the story!


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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by KimDobbins » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:24 am

Still for sale, I've had several offers, and quite a bit of interest, but no sale yet.


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Re: FS original 1911 model T Touring

Post by KimDobbins » Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:12 pm

Sold pending payment.

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