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1909 2 lever running chassis for sale - now SOLD

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:13 am
by bcbug68
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Dear MTFCA members,

I will not be able to finish my Ford T for different reasons, so I will sell the running chassis.
Thanks the MTFCA members who help me to restore this car.

This Ford is the number 489, which is a very rare 2 pedal 2 lever exported in juanuary 1909

I restored all the internal and mechanical parts to be able to drive the car in safety conditions. But the external parts were patinated.

Below, I give you the lists of the original and new parts and other pictures.

For more information about the restoration write me in private message.

The price is 85,000 euros (or make an offer, the car is in France).

Original parts N°489 :

Chassis
Engine
Gearbox
Rear axle


Original parts early 1909 :

Front axle (bought at Don lang’s)
Steering tube and sterrin pinion case
Steering support fixed on the frame
Steering axle
Gas tank
Hood former
Firewall bracket
Aluminium hood

Original parts other years :

Wheels not demountable
Kingston coil box an coils 1909-1913
Rear tapered leaf springs
Radiator brass cap
Carburator (original need to be adjusted will be given with the car)
1923-1927 magneto coils and magnet (missing parts in the engine)
Spider gears axle
Gears mounted on the new rear axle tapered shaft

New parts :

Radiator
Brass pipe between the radiator and the water pump
Steering wheel
Gas and Ignition command
Steering gear set
Hubcaps
Exaust pipe, nut and muffler
Hoses
Pistons and rings
Valves
Spring valves
Connecting rods
Head gasket
Water pump turbine (I made the patern)
Fan bought at Kim Dobbins
Timer 1909 but not early cars
Sparks plugs
Sparks plugs wires
Coil box switch, hinges and Kingston plates
Clutch
Gearbox bushes
Rebabbited ball cap
Kevlar band linings
Front axle bushes
Tie rod bolt
Front bearing and seals
Pit man arm
Front and rear early shackles
Carb control
Firewall
Drive shaft
Brass bushe axle shaft
Pinion gear and ring
Rear axle tapered
Rear bearing and sleeves and seals
Brass bushes machined instead of babitt bushes in the rear axle
Oilers
And a lot of others small parts…

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Re: Ford t 1909 2 levers running chassis

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:00 pm
by Andrew Brand
The original post by Brice with photos of the car as found is here:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/322425.html

Re: Ford t 1909 2 levers running chassis

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:29 am
by bcbug68
Yes I kept all the original parts and all the restoration I made are reversible.

Even the magneto could be put again on the engine, I made a brass part to hide the hole.

I don't have beautiful pictures of all of them, but below you will have an overview. I could make more pictures if it is interesting for the next owner.

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Re: Ford t 1909 2 levers running chassis

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:58 pm
by ChrisB
Here is an older post on the restoration, if I can find more I will add them.

https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/7 ... 1488738864

Re: Ford t 1909 2 levers running chassis

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:12 pm
by ChrisB

Re: Ford t 1909 2 levers running chassis

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:29 am
by bcbug68
Dear Ron Mac,
Thank you for your message. Yes, it was a challenge for me to save this very rare original parts.
With build sheet you mean the date of birth of the car? The answer is in the Bruce Mc Calley book due to members of this forum who help me( I bought the book after).
From this book, or other books and discussion with MTFCA members and the red Color I found on the chassis and the rear axle the original body was probably a touring painted in red.

Re: Ford t 1909 2 levers running chassis

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:05 am
by bcbug68
The story is very simple. The chassis with engine mounted in and the rear axle were stored in a barn for a long long time. A lot of people saw it was a Ford T because it was noticed on, but nobody looked closer to see it was one of the first with all the details you know : 2 pedals, 2 levers, water pump…

1909 2 lever running chassis for sale

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:07 pm
by ChrisB
This is a new post of this very early chassis that has been seen on here before.

Brice has lowered the price to $35,000 US

Re: 1909 2 lever running chassis for sale

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:43 am
by bcbug68
Yes, Thank you Chris. I really need to sell this chassis.
Now the chassis has new tyres, and later front lights.

Re: 1909 2 lever running chassis for sale

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:53 am
by TWrenn
ChrisB wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:07 pm
This is a new post of this very early chassis that has been seen on here before.

Brice has lowered the price to $35,000 US
Holy cow...from $94K in US dollars now to $35K! What a shame of a beating. I feel bad for the seller.

Re: 1909 2 lever running chassis for sale

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:11 pm
by Jerry VanOoteghem
TWrenn wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:53 am
ChrisB wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:07 pm
This is a new post of this very early chassis that has been seen on here before.

Brice has lowered the price to $35,000 US
Holy cow...from $94K in US dollars now to $35K! What a shame of a beating. I feel bad for the seller.
Well, in all honesty, some years ago, a complete & restored 2 pedal T sold for not much more than the original asking price.

Re: 1909 2 lever running chassis for sale

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:32 pm
by TWrenn
Jerry VanOoteghem wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:11 pm
TWrenn wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:53 am
ChrisB wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:07 pm
This is a new post of this very early chassis that has been seen on here before.

Brice has lowered the price to $35,000 US
Holy cow...from $94K in US dollars now to $35K! What a shame of a beating. I feel bad for the seller.
Well, in all honesty, some years ago, a complete & restored 2 pedal T sold for not much more than the original asking price.
Good grief!! :shock:

Re: 1909 2 lever running chassis for sale

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:09 pm
by bcbug68
This price will let somebody to earn money to the transport costs to USA! ;)

Re: 1909 2 lever running chassis for sale

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:30 pm
by Lcjudge
Sent you an email

Re: 1909 2 lever running chassis for sale

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:25 am
by bcbug68
The chassis is sold