Un-Distributor FS

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Un-Distributor FS

Post by MKossor » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:30 pm

Distributor Alternative:

Stock Appearance, Automatic Timing Advance and Zero Maintenance.

Performance and Convenience without the stigma.

Model T E-Timer Electronic Ignition. Visit www.modeltetimer.com for more information


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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by MKossor » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:45 pm

The ultimate in convenience and Model T Engine ignition performance with over 10 years proven reliability.
I-Timer + ECCT Adjusted Coils = Best Model T Engine Performance Possible!
www.modeltitimer.com www.modeltecct.com


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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by halftracknut » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:59 pm

I can't see your web site because of the giant we use cookies sign...

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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by Tim Rogers » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:30 am

"stigma"?- please explain.
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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by Mark Nunn » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:12 am

Mike, your E-timer has been on my short list of must-get's for a long time. I haven’t pulled the trigger yet since I’ve been concentrating on all of the drivetrain and safety issues first. I’m hoping to get ready to buy early next year.

I’ve read the information on your website many times so I think I know what to expect. I have questions, though, but first here is a little background information. My '26 Runabout doesn’t have a magneto and it will run fine on 6V up to about 1200 RPM on level ground. Then it “runs out of steam”. My late uncle set up the coils using an oscilloscope. (He was an electronics engineer at IBM and his hobby was restoring antique radios.) I will never know his knowledge level of adjusting Model T coils, though.

I tested the time-to-fire consistency using a scribed mark on the crank pulley and a timing light. I just put each coil into the #1 coil location for each test. I have one spare that is about 15 degrees slower to fire than the others.

The E-timer bypasses coil points. Does that mean that it compensates for coil time-to-fire inconsistencies in a set of coils? Since I’m running 6V will I still have a slower time-to-fire compared to 12V or mag? Can I expect spark energy to be comparable to a good magneto?

Thank you for taking the time to read my long post.


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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by gldavis » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:19 pm

This spring I pulled my Dizzy off after it left me stranded...again (I really came to hate that darn thing...). I couldn't be happier with the performance and the customer care after I bought the E-timer. For a non-mag car, this is the way to go in my opinion.

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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by MKossor » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:59 pm

Mark, Operating on 6V battery should run well above 1200 RPM if: 1. You have sufficient timing advance range (sufficient timer rotation). and 2. Your coils are properly adjusted for equal and consistent firing time. The method your Uncle used to set up coils with an oscilloscope likely resulted in excellent engine performance because an Oscilloscope can measure coil ramp time to fire spark very accurately. The ECCT does the same thing without a costly oscilloscope and knowledge needed to use one. Your method of checking time-to-fire consistency seems reasonable.

The E-Timer bypasses the coil points using a small fuse jumper to effectively short them out (the points never open electrically; but they do open physically making them buzz). This allows the E-Timer to take over total control charging and discharging the coil instead of the coil points. Yes, Operating on 6V you will still have slower time-to-fire spark compared with 12V. That is why you must be able to advance the spark sufficiently. That is done by ensuring the E-Timer can physically rotate 0.91" from fully retarded (starting) to fully advanced (operating). Insufficient E-Timer rotation (less than 0.91") WILL result in the ignition timing firing Too late (retarded) with poor engine acceleration and power. The timer housing should be capable of rotating 1.1" if all linkage of the spark lever, shaft, timer pull rod are all in good mechanical order. Yes, spark energy (and engine performance) is comparable to a good magneto.

George, Thanks for sharing your experience with the E-Timer.
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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by MKossor » Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:42 am

New Year Resolution Suggestion: Return Model T back to stock appearance using buzz coils.
(but with zero maintenance and exceptional performance; install an E-Timer)
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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by MKossor » Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:05 pm

Still time to get going on your New Year resolutions. ;)
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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by MKossor » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:57 pm

Enjoy perfect engine ignition perforance with Zero maintenance this Spring simply by swapping your timer for an E-Timer.
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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by TYM451 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:38 am

i've install the e-timer. but cannot fully advance it because it comes up against the fan belt. What might be the cause?


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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:54 pm

TYM451 wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:38 am
i've install the e-timer. but cannot fully advance it because it comes up against the fan belt. What might be the cause?
Typically, it would be that your fan belt is too long.


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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by Adam » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:34 pm

TYM451 wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:38 am
i've install the e-timer. but cannot fully advance it because it comes up against the fan belt. What might be the cause?

If your car has the ‘26-‘27 fan that hangs from the water outlet, then the “usual” cause is that the fan was rotated the wrong direction to tension the fan belt. The correct direction moves the belt away from the timer, the incorrect way moves the belt towards the timer.

If it is the earlier style fan, then the belt is too long.


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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by Roz » Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:31 am

I am running an E-timer on my speedster engine. I really like it. It has the benefits of an auto-advance distributor with the look of an original timer and coils. It really puts out a big fat spark. It also fires the cylinders at equal, consistent times like a single point distributor. I could tell an immediate difference when I installed it. I have no connection to the supplier other than my experience. I'm just sharing.

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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by Mark Nunn » Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:49 am

Gary, I had the same problem on my '26 and I did what Adam described. It was a 2-minute-fix.


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Re: Un-Distributor FS

Post by TYM451 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:24 am

Thanks for the input. I had already checked those conditions. It is a 1926 with the belt tensioner rotated away from the timer.

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