WANTED Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Patent

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WANTED Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Patent

Post by J1MGOLDEN » Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:48 pm

I need Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Updraft Patent, as to what carburetor was designed to go with it and if it is worth trying to install and operate. Jim Golden, Bowie, aryland


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Re: WANTED Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Patent

Post by Scott_Conger » Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:26 pm

Jim, that's a tall order without a patent # to see exactly what you're asking about
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Re: WANTED Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Patent

Post by J1MGOLDEN » Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:16 am

Scott, all efforts to find the patent number has failed me.

Google usually has them all, but I have had no luck finding one.

Russ Potter has one and is going to send me a photo.


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Re: WANTED Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Patent

Post by J1MGOLDEN » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:41 pm

I did find Patent Number 1,536,043 that was file 30 April 1917 by Earl A. Bessom, and granted 28 April 1925 for an updraft carburetor that could be used with the uplink inlet manifold.

Perhaps that carburetor goes with the manifold that required less research to grant.

Earl was living in Indianapolis, Indiana at that time and evidently had been working for Schebler, as he immediately signed the patent over to Schebler.

Wheeler had merged with or bought Schebler several years earlier, so all carburetors were made as Wheeler-Schebler carbs during those years.

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Re: WANTED Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Patent

Post by TRDxB2 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:26 pm

J1MGOLDEN wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:48 pm
I need Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Updraft Patent, as to what carburetor was designed to go with it and if it is worth trying to install and operate. Jim Golden, Bowie, aryland

Can you reward the above. Not sure of your looking for a part to a carburetor or what car the carburetor goes on where the carb is a 30 April 1920 Shebler Updraft ... Pictures would help others to see what to look for
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Re: WANTED Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Patent

Post by Scott_Conger » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:51 pm

https://patents.google.com/patent/US1536043A/en

I think it's worth trying. I appears to have an acceleration well, a richness adjustment and an idle fuel mixture adjustment. Float level is maintained by a very common period method employed by lots of mfgs
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Re: WANTED Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Patent

Post by DustySpokes » Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:24 pm

From my own hard earned research , the only updraft Shebler Carb that has a Model T Ford application is the Shebler 1-1/4 updraft that was meant to be one of two carb options for the RAJO C-35 Overhead Valve conversion.


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Re: WANTED Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Patent

Post by J1MGOLDEN » Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:21 pm

The Rest of This Question!

A friend bought this stationary engine stand from an old mill.

The transmission was modified to turn a large sprocket.

The engine ran good in 1971 when it was purchased, but it has stayed in dry storage since then.

The carb may have been sold or lost, but it is gone.

No one has any idea what carb should go on the manifold now.
Schrebler Updraft Manifold.jpg
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Re: WANTED Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Patent

Post by TRDxB2 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:25 pm

J1MGOLDEN wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:21 pm
The Rest of This Question!

A friend bought this stationary engine stand from an old mill.

The transmission was modified to turn a large sprocket.

The engine ran good in 1971 when it was purchased, but it has stayed in dry storage since then.

The carb may have been sold or lost, but it is gone.

No one has any idea what carb should go on the manifold now.Schrebler Updraft Manifold.jpg
What size is the flange for the carburetor? That will help rule out some & point to others
A close up of some of the lettering on the manifold would help too
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Re: WANTED Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Patent

Post by J1MGOLDEN » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:56 pm

The updraft section has SCHEBLER on it at a slant.

PATENTED 30 APRIL 1920 is written across the bottom of all the inlets.

All the block letters are about 5/8th inch tall.


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Re: WANTED Information on a 30 April 1920 Shebler Patent

Post by Southfork Creek » Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:02 pm

You can pull up all the patents granted on that date. And just start looking for the one you want. I have done that for various model t aftermarket parts. There may be several hundred on a given day, so this is typically about a 3 beer project, at least for me.

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