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WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 5:34 pm
by Tom Stephens
WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fender-less speedster

Tom Stephens

Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:28 pm
by Kevin Pharis
Most use cut off fender brackets, what mounting style…? Early D shaped mount for gas headlight forks? Black car era V notch?

Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:29 pm
by Tom Stephens
Whoops, thanks for clarification :-)

'25 speedster, so yes, the later style. I've seen the cut-off '26-'27 fender irons

Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:23 pm
by Kevin Pharis
I’ll see what I have layin around

Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:49 pm
by Tom Stephens
Great, that will work!!

Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:29 am
by TRDxB2
You might want to match your headlight post's threaded end to the fender iron mount hole for it (no assumptions) .
In addition the 22-25 stop is slight taper

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Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:20 pm
by Tom Stephens
Great info!! I am picking up my headlight buckets on October 7th, so will inspect then and report back on the 8th.

Tom

Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:10 pm
by Tom Stephens
My buckets...
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Funny, looks like I have one '15 - '17 and one '22 - '25. How will they both fit the cut-off '26-'27 fender irons?

Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:33 pm
by Layden Butler
Neither one will fit '26-27 fender brackets. Those later Model Ts have a completely different method of mounting the fender to the frame and the headlights mount to the fenders.

Can you post a picture of the front corner ( either side) of your frame so we can see what you are working with?

Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:35 pm
by TRDxB2
Layden Butler wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:33 pm
Neither one will fit '26-27 fender brackets. Those later Model Ts have a completely different method of mounting the fender to the frame and the headlights mount to the fenders.

Can you post a picture of the front corner ( either side) of your frame so we can see what you are working with?
You are correct but Tom made an improper reference as having seen "cut-off '26-'27 fender irons". Tom is building a fenderless speedster so 26-27 irons & fenders are out of scope.

Given what irons he has. Just needs to buy one of each fender iron.. Its a speedster so the mismatch doesn't matter. Or its what a speedster is about, making one from available parts!

It is also possible to make one of headlight posts fit the other style fender iron with a bit of effort
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Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:08 am
by Tom Stephens
Layden,

I've attached the photos of the corner of my frame.

PS. I think I bought my steering wheel from you!

Tom

Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 11:20 am
by TRDxB2
Tom Stephens wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:08 am
Layden,
I've attached the photos of the corner of my frame.
PS. I think I bought my steering wheel from you!
Tom
Some confusion has been caused by the above comment and what your looking for.
by Tom Stephens » Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:29 pm
Whoops, thanks for clarification :-)
'25 speedster, so yes, the later style. I've seen the cut-off '26-'27 fender irons

The holes shown in your frame picture (and headlights) indicate you need an "iron"
the 1926-27 Fenders used a "bracket" (4858) not an "iron" (4808-M or 4809)
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Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:24 pm
by Tom Stephens
Mine is a speedster without fenders, so as far as I know, I need something like 4809 so I can mount headlights thru the holes in 4809, thus not needing and cutting off the rest of the fender iron.

As far as the year "iron" I need, I do not know.

Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 2:30 pm
by TRDxB2
Tom Stephens wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:24 pm
Mine is a speedster without fenders, so as far as I know, I need something like 4809 so I can mount headlights thru the holes in 4809, thus not needing and cutting off the rest of the fender iron.

As far as the year "iron" I need, I do not know.
This what is typically used for the headlights you have. They are fender irons with the rods cut off.
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Since the posts of the headlights you have are different you can get one of each or just one style 4804-M and file the sides of the tapered one. Don't worry about the taper.
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Try Bob's Antique Auto Parts he has a ton of the Front Fender Irons - he's the FATMAN on the forum

Re: WTB - Fender bracket speedster headlight mounts for fenderless speedster

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:29 am
by Tom Stephens
I rec'd my fender irons, each one matching the flat and tapered stems, I couldn't be more pleased. Thanks for all the helpful info!

Tom